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December 11th - XBox 360 video downloads roll-out
Tuesday 04 December 2007 16:55:32 by Andrew Ferguson

The XBox 360 is set to try and cement itself as the centre of digital media entertainment with the UK launch of its XBox LIVE Marketplace Video store on the 11th December as detailed over at xboxer.tv. A blog on The Guardian has a list of some of the films expected to be available at launch.

Pricing is around £3 for a high definition movie download and down to around £2 for a standard definition film. If similar bit rates as are used in the USA are used in the UK, a two hour movie may weigh in at 5GB (gigabytes). Dropping to standard definition sees the size fall to around 1.6GB.

A 5GB download will take quite a while to download. On a 0.5Mbps (megabits per second) connection, it will take a full 24 hours to download assuming the connection can run flat out; on a 10Mbps connection it will be around 1.5 hours. With the way some providers run their fair use policies, people may see the first half of a film download quickly to find speeds drop significantly once over the magical limit which is often not published or varies from day to day. These figures all ignore the potential for slow downs due to other people using their broadband connections too.

With the Christmas holidays around the corner and people being bought new games consoles for Christmas, long periods at home may introduce the scope for network congestion over Christmas. The differences between providers with spare capacity and those trying to squeeze the last ounce of performance from their networks may become even more obvious.

Comments

Posted by _TRIaXOR_ over 9 years ago
Bye bye download allowances :-\

if you have a so called 'Generous' amount of 40GB then thats 8 high def Movies.

Time for ISPs to rethink thier so called FUPs IMHO.
Posted by CARPETBURN over 9 years ago
LMAO never mind about download allowances isnt the standard 360 hard drive only 20gig??? So wow we you can download 4 whole films LOL.... Pointless.
The rumoured divx update is of far more interest, at the end of the day though the 360 is just a kids toy with first person shooter rubbish for the children to think they would be good at war.
Posted by Bin216 over 9 years ago
It's worse than that, the XBox reserves some of the space for it's own use (for XBox 1 emulation, system updates, game updates, etc) leaving you only around 17Gb for storing stuff (20 manufacture Gb = 18.6 binary Gb, so it's not reserved all that much)
Posted by Bin216 over 9 years ago
Ok, my mistake. It's apparently 13Gb usable space.
Posted by mcbazza over 9 years ago
Virgin Media tells you to install DU Meter, to help you monitor your download usage - and thus to avoid being capped.
Good luck getting that installed/running on your 360!!
Posted by arundel over 9 years ago
Did anyone else read carpetburn's comment in the style of a certain character from 'a christmas carol'? Might be just me. God forbid anyone have *fun* with one of the things. Humbug!
Posted by _TRIaXOR_ over 9 years ago
'LMAO never mind about download allowances isnt the standard 360 hard drive only 20gig???'

Someone forgot that the new 'elite' model has a 120GB for it's HDD ;) and the 120GB hdd is now available for all other models. :p
Posted by nredwood over 9 years ago
Pure coincidence that most of MS Live and XBox Live is having trouble functioning tonight

'Status:

Users may experience issues with matchmaking, posting statistics and sending messages. Users may also experience issues when attempting to render live.xbox.com.

We are actively investigating this issue and apologize for any inconvenience.'
Posted by CARPETBURN over 9 years ago
quote"Someone forgot that the new 'elite' model has a 120GB for it's HDD ;) and the 120GB hdd is now available for all other models. :p"
Errr no i didnt which is why i used the term STANDARD, to get a 120gig drive you either have to buy it seperate or buy an elite model 360.
Also as Bin216 with the 20 gig drive you will only have around 13gig MAX of space to play with so thats actually 2 HD films...oooo wow how exciting.
Posted by CARPETBURN over 9 years ago
quote"Did anyone else read carpetburn's comment in the style of a certain character from 'a christmas carol'? Might be just me. God forbid anyone have *fun* with one of the things. Humbug!"
Yep years of fun with just 2 downloaded films..... oh hang on no it isnt!
Posted by martinsaunders over 9 years ago
"Time for ISPs to rethink their so called FUPs IMHO."

I doubt there is going to be much thought into this. What you're allowed to download is ultimately dictated by how much you pay, especially if you're connection is IP-Stream based (where the ISP is generally charged for capacity used).

This is where the residential LLU providers will clean up, as their cost bases regarding usage is radically different.

It will be interesting to see what films are available in high def, especially if there are films that are released on Blu-ray rather than HD-DVD...
Posted by Guzzo over 9 years ago
Christmas is humbug.
My DVD films will be coming throught the post as usual which has no posting Limits although the packets are different shapes!
ahhh but there will also be no CRC errors requiring a fresh posting either heheheheh.
Posted by martinsaunders over 9 years ago
re: Guzzo

Perhaps M$ should consider RFC1149 in that case

http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1149.html

:)
Posted by mikeluff over 9 years ago
Why is everyone going on about the number of movies you can store? Isn't this going to be like a rental and not purchase - how long can you keep a movie, or how many plays? You planning on downloading every movie in one go? I doubt it.
Posted by bosie over 9 years ago
Wow, Apple has been courting the film industry for a long time without success at launching a UK service. What did Microsoft do to win a license to sell film, HD too? Coming on the back of Universal deciding to sell DRM free music but not to iTunes, the people at Apple are perhaps starting to feel left out.
Posted by CARPETBURN over 9 years ago
quote"Isn't this going to be like a rental and not purchase - how long can you keep a movie, or how many plays?"
Doesnt really matter, the films are huge in size, take ages to download, will cost you a pretty penny and nobody with any sense is going to bother cos now you can play divx on the 360 off your hard disk, or via usb LOL
Posted by c_j_ over 9 years ago
"providers with spare capacity .. vs .. those trying to squeeze the last ounce of performance from their networks"

An ISP relying on capacity (and tariffs) alone to avoid and/or manage congestion is taking a big risk - when usage does get near the limits it'll get equally awful for all the users. If there were any ISPs that had chosen to mix sensible tariffs with actively managed usage *and* made a decent job of it, they'd be in a better position to handle an unusual surge in demand than the "congestion? it'll never happen here, with our spare capacity" ISPs.
Posted by ryster over 9 years ago
Carpetburn, £3 is competitive with DVD rental stores for a single night, so I fail to see how these "cost you a pretty penny". At the end of the day, if you dont like the service then dont use it. Don't sit around here trolling.
Posted by CARPETBURN over 9 years ago
Errr ryster you miss the point entirely. The latest 360 update allows you to also download a divx component. With the amount of legal and illegal material around in divx/xvid format why would anyone want to waste their download allowance or face throttling from their ISP here in the UK downloading a massive 5GB film, when their box can now play legal content thats smaller to download and roughly equal in quality with no DRM or other restrictions. Its not just about the price per download but time to download, quality of the download, restrictions of the download and sooo much more.
Posted by CARPETBURN over 9 years ago
On a side note it seems sony have also took the keep up with the MS joneses approach and have just released an update for the ps3 to allow divx content.... Oh the irony there huh shiny console with bluray drive gets update to play old compressed film format LOL
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