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2,000,000 premises milestone reached in our tracking of Openreach full fibre

Openreach has declared a figure well past the two million premises point (2.156 million), but this is believed to include premises where everything has been built but is awaiting the final checks before getting flagged as live and thus available to order.

Our tracking of where the public can order full fibre over the Openreach network is sat as we write this at 2,000,185 premises passed and our maps have the postcodes covering these premises on them.

We would have expected to reach the two million point a few days earlier, but several things have conspired such that we are only finding around 2,000 premises a day rather than the 3,500 we had got used to. One of these is that our work on final checking for the quarters new build premises is underway and while we are still finding some new build FTTP it is at smaller volumes than a few week ago and blocks of new FTTP under the Fibre First and Fibre Town/Village project seem to be much harder to find. One distinct possibility is that we seeing a dip in build activity due to the Christmas break, blaming this in February may seem odd, but based on the limited number of reports of build activity versus people actually being able to order a period of six to eight weeks from build to actual live and people can place orders looks about right. 

Comments

No doubt the current spate of bad weather will see a dip in numbers too as resources are diverted from installation work to repairs.

  • New_Londoner
  • about 1 month ago

Good to see and over 1/5 is rural, the beginning of a good legacy for Gov efforts.

  • ValueforMoney
  • about 1 month ago

If the 1/5 is taken from article of the fifth, then it needs pointing out we did not actually say 1/5 is rural, that is something you (ValueForMoney/NGAForAll) have decided.

Figures will be different since some new build and commercial roll-out is in rural areas and some BDUK interventions count as urban, i.e. BDUK is not rural automatically.

  • andrew
  • thinkbroadband staff
  • about 1 month ago

Hi VFM. The USO will show where the fibre is located when there is a check on the results at the end of the month in the last week it looks like the ADSL lines have been targeted and have been moved to the FTTC and locked at 10 Meg you can checked this by using the number on the BT checker.
I have had the agent from QUBEGB at my home I feel they at lost due to the faulting system by not calling the customer back when requested.

  • Blackmamba
  • about 1 month ago

, ~467k is in DCMS slideware. It would be peculiar if it was not rural. It is something to be celebrated and you have used 'rural intervention' in recent monthly reporting.

If you look at slide 9 in Openreach presentation https://www.btplc.com/Sharesandperformance/Financialreportingandnews/Quarterlyresults/2019-2020/Openreachbusinessbriefing/Downloads/Slides/OpenreachBusinessBriefing-041219.pdf it is marked rural.

  • ValueforMoney
  • about 1 month ago

"467,545 premises via BDUK/gap funded or other rural intervention" is what I said on 12th.

The actual rural FTTP via Openreach is higher than this, the changes around Fibre Villages is starting to mess with the figures. Some of this may actually be new build where FTTP is known to re-visiting some new build estates without external funding, and some will be one of the various funding methods. Running at around 32% FTTP from the FTTP that KCOM and Openreach have deployed.

On the BT slide there is a mistake as there was FTTP in urban parts of Exeter and parts of London.

  • andrew
  • thinkbroadband staff
  • about 1 month ago

Only mentioning it now so that you have the full context for our figures and don't miss quote them as some have been in the past.

  • andrew
  • thinkbroadband staff
  • about 1 month ago

Hi VFM..
I have always costed and observed the Broadband system by the old group twitching area codes STD ( Eg 01428 ) this covers all lines short and long and MPs so I only have to check the post codes that are under 10 Meg which are showing on Ofcoms checker marked in squares.

  • Blackmamba
  • about 1 month ago

Andrew, Sure but even those villages have been enabled by the previous subsidised upgrades.

  • ValueforMoney
  • about 1 month ago

Blackmamba, I am interested in the momentum and hoping the rural element will be upped to 20-22k a month using the monies within the process. NI -stratom (95k) Scotland R100(~170k), contracted but yet to be delivered ~275k, suggests with what is in BT balance sheet and various true-ups another 600K premises could be contracted in England. I hope folk have the wit to complete the upside available.

  • ValueforMoney
  • about 1 month ago

Hence the baseline figure that you got thrown for free this month, before the majority of the work got underway.

As for momentum, likely the BDUK contracts will slow down further than they already have, rather than suddenly deliver 4 times as much per month as you hope (dream). The financial vehicle for the next five years has not been defined fully yet.

BDUK process was born a decade ago now.

  • andrew
  • thinkbroadband staff
  • about 1 month ago

Andrew, I not underestimating the challenge but there are ~275k contracted but outstanding, NI to come online and Scotland R100 should increase the 5-7k residual.

I was in BDUK then, and the objective to go far as possible still holds. Perhaps it showed the lack of preparedness, and the belief still by many that full fibre was only a premium access for private circuits.

Exchanges in 2016 with chiefs in Openreach, until Gavin left, were still, against their better judgement presenting G.Fast as some sort of panacea.

The opportunity exists to conclude a few regional procurements in Eng.

  • ValueforMoney
  • about 1 month ago

VFM and BM discussing. Should be interesting...

'costed broadband using group twitching area codes' ???

  • Somerset
  • about 1 month ago

@VFM
“the objective to go far as possible still holds”

If that is true, surely it would be reflected in all of the contracts placed by the local bodies. Clearly somebody forgot to tell them though since it isn’t!

  • New_Londoner
  • about 1 month ago

@Somerset
Visions of the X Files meets Worzel Gummidge! ;-)

  • New_Londoner
  • about 1 month ago

Hi Broadband Watchers.
More fibre open this week in Area Code 01428 Exchange Passfield there are also post codes in Wormley and Haslemere not showing on TBB maps.

  • Blackmamba
  • about 1 month ago

HINT: For those wanting to help and skip the queue supplying one postcode that has FTTP that is not on our maps is enough since we always look at the surrounding area when making any changes.

General area names mean there is more work to figure out the new bit.

  • andrew
  • thinkbroadband staff
  • about 1 month ago

Hi Andrew. I think you do look but you are missing post codes because you do not check the old copper cable runs. I also use the OFCom addresses data information.

  • Blackmamba
  • about 1 month ago

So lets make this simple, tell me 1 postcode that I am missing.

  • andrew
  • thinkbroadband staff
  • about 1 month ago

Drop everything, Andrew, Openreach have done some work in Surrey. Get yourself to the local exchanges to walk the chambers and find the old copper cable runs - they'll tell you everything about what's actually underneath the chamber covers.

If you aren't manually checking every pole you're just not good enough. Surrey's 1/50th of the population requires your 100% attention.

  • CarlThomas
  • about 1 month ago

Hi Broadbandd Watchers.
The three data/Base addresses on (Openreach checker) MUST tie with the (Bt checker) and the (OFCom addresses Checker.) if not you get feedbacks.

  • Blackmamba
  • about 1 month ago

Important point for readers...

Ofcom obtains its data using its regulatory powers (i.e. providers MUST supply data) and thus any differences between addresses on the Openreach and BT checker and Ofcom checker are mistakes created by Ofcom, or mistakes in the data Openreach or BT is supplying or things have changed since the data was provided.

Remember Ofcom only updates things once a quarter.

For Blackmamba still waiting on a postcode or the usual screen shot from your ipad

  • andrew
  • thinkbroadband staff
  • about 1 month ago

Hi Andrew. The OFCom address are the postal address which all ISP,s are tied to via the BT checker.

  • Blackmamba
  • about 1 month ago

I think you will find large providers such as Virgin Media and numerous other ones are NOT tied to the BT checker in any way.

  • andrew
  • thinkbroadband staff
  • about 1 month ago

Hi Andrew.. I think you will find there is a self check on the OFCom addresses by the registered council tax this gives a set GPS number. lat/Lon. The addresses are in alphabetical order on the three systems. (Openreach, Bt checker,OFCom).

  • Blackmamba
  • about 1 month ago

I think you will find there is no link between Ofcom and council tax or GPS numbers.

Lat/Lon existed well before the GPS system too I should point out.

  • andrew
  • thinkbroadband staff
  • about 1 month ago

I fully expect to see suggestions about a database of addresses and council tax bands, linked to the relevant imperial GPS coordinates and cross-referenced to the appropriate zodiac sign coming next. ;-)

  • New_Londoner
  • about 1 month ago

Hi Andrew. Please will you update Post Codes GU84HL, Gu84HN as they have been missed I think it was provided by using the clawback money plus the help of a developer..

  • Blackmamba
  • about 1 month ago

Hi New. I hope you are not referring to ISP ZEN as they could be involved with the problem on Post Code GU102 Xx.

  • Blackmamba
  • about 1 month ago

As a fibre first area, I've been seeing Openreach working in the exchange footprint and also noticed and checked the amount of FTTP network in place and live, however I'm unable to track any Openreach/BT work on One.Network or Roadworks.org as it used to be.

Have they stopped supplying this information now or is it down to council to feed this data through.

  • mlmclaren
  • about 1 month ago

Down to the council, though if the existing ducting is in good condition and paths wide enough to have barriers up and path stay open you may not see notifications.

  • andrew
  • thinkbroadband staff
  • about 1 month ago

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