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Hi Broadband Watchers.
With many Post Codes not showing a black spot (TBB) it it showings that Openreach is giving correct data and may be not confusing the Public as to their results it is very easy to switch the Bt Checker information as required to the demand on provision.
I feel it is up to the ISPs (500) to respond to this objective if not they I feel they will lose out in this competitive market each post Code is very important in my view to the uk objective to be the best in EU.

Hi Broadband Watchers.
Please remember that there are various customers to each Post Code so they have a controlling power if only a few to retuning a result.

There is something a little odd in comparing <24Mps with <30Mbps. The <24Mbps for UK&NI is 486k premises while the <30Mbps ballons to 1.1m premises a difference of 630k premises. The issue in NI is particularly pronounced as <24Mpbs is merely 5k for <24Mps versus 85.9k for 30Mps.
The 24mbps (it is more than ADSL) versus 30Mbps (a once EU estimate for 4g rural) has little to do with the user experience. Is there something in the stats driving this or it actual premise count? Against original objectives BDUK is 98.5% coverage.
What is the impact on OR system size of c25.5m?

What is this OR system size 25.5 million, since bears no relation to any figure I am aware of.

UK & NI does not exist, it is just UK. And difference between >24 Mbps and 30 Mbps definitions is just 109,026 in the table. Believe you have used the wrong columns and are confusing yourself.

The original BDUK objective was 90%, then became 95% and now a hope to reach 97 to 98%. Where is the official declaration that 98.5% is an actual objective?

My error on the columns.
The objective was to go as far as possible.

You can pick up the OR system size from the annual accounts. Your site reports availability for Openreach, so I assume it is based on their published system size.

And final question. The premise total minus number in second column number. Total UK premise 30.1m less 29.6m who cannot access some upgraded service leaves 486k premises where no one has attempted to upgrade? Are these active ELO's? London has 85K of these lines. For clarity can you describe what they might be?

We are not doing what you seem to be implying, i.e. working to a system size and deriving the figures. The superfast openreach footprint is larger than your figure in terms of premises, so you might want to check the source of your 25.5 million figure.

On the ELO, one assumes you mean exchange only lines, yes some will be in there, some won't as others offer a service to them e.g. Virgin Media, Hyperoptic etc. There are still cabinets out there without a VDSL2 twin too.

Anyone know roughly Openreach's pricing update for FTTP will take place?
FTTP is now available and I don't know if it's worth waiting a week or two for it hopefully going down by then to make the 330 package to be around £38.
My current FTTC package runs out early October so I'll need to take in count of the 'up to 14 working days' for the line to be installed otherwise I'll be stuck on 4g in the meantime.

"The good news is that full fibre is now available to 9% of UK premises, . . ." or putting it another way, 91% of UK premises do not have access to Full Fibre connections.

While true, a few weeks ago it was 92% that did not have access to full fibre, so its good news it is at least moving in the right direction.

Andrew, OR operational KPI stats last quarter show 25.1m premises connected to Openreach. I am not implying anything but it is good to understand. What proportion of these connected lines can and cannot get superfast?

25.1m connected, but there are more who count as passed but are not taking any Openreach services, e.g. street has Openreach copper but home has had Virgin Media services for years.

https://labs.thinkbroadband.com/local/ has some help for 91% of UK premises have option of a superfast Openreach connection and 91% of 30,125,904 premises is ???

There are then more who cannot get superfast but passed by network and if you agree to quote the source in your report will let you have the figure.

Andrew - Openreach say 28m can connect to superfast service, but do not specify how many cannot.
Happy to quote source. Trying to get to a better understanding of the outstanding rural (<24Mbps, <30Mbps) number which might be better stated as a function of the OR network in rural.
The latest Ministial evidence (EFRA SC) used quoted Jan 2019 and used 1.57m non superfast of which 245k were urban, 323k suburban, 842k rural and another '162k' in most rural areas.
If we take off what was contracted but outstanding (400k) and minus off the phase 3,4+ NI R100 then this is getting small indeed.

If worrying about not having Superfast then you need to look at the figures since, obsessing about Openreach alone is just part of the story.

I guess you are asking for a news item to update the figures from our previous one
https://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/8312-picture-of-current-rural-and-urban-broadband-divide-in-great-britain

1.57m suggests 95% superfast - so probably older than Jan 2019 data

Of course if you remove what is contracted the numbers shrink, but we don't do that because our aim is to see if contracted targets are being met, i.e. what is available for people to order.

Andrew,,, missed that one. Thank you.