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First clear area with overlap between FTTP and Gfast spotted

The Openreach ultrafast broadband roll-out continues and a key point in the Fibre First roll-out is now visible. The Whitchurch exchange in Cardiff has been known to have G.fast pods at a number of cabinets for some time, but the FTTP roll-out in fast VDSL2 areas has now been spotted and while the original explanation was that areas that got G.fast would not see FTTP this exchange is showing that this is not always the case.

The roll-out and spotting all the Fibre First activity is an ongoing job but if you alternate the G.fast and FTTP layers on our broadband map you see that some postcodes have the full range of choice from Openreach of VDSL2, G.fast and FTTP. The interesting part is that while we expected some overlap at the fringes of the G.fast range in some cases premises almost on top of the pod now have a FTTP option of 330 Mbps (and in theory 1000 Mbps if someone will sell it to you).

The areas where we have spotted G.fast pods for the first time are:

  • Botley
  • Cheetham Hill
  • Halesowen
  • Kirkliston
  • Mid Calder
  • Ribbleton
  • Sheerness
  • Shorne
  • Sittingbourne

There are also some areas with addition pods including Cardiff, Livingstone Bridge, Livingstone Station and Westwood.

This takes the G.fast footprint that we have in our checkers to 4,935 pods covering some 1,398,448 premises within range of 100 Mbps or faster download speeds.

The spotting of more of the Fibre First roll-out in several areas (i.e. Northern Ireland, Cardiff, Bristol and Birmingham) is also boosting the FTTP coverage figure which as of this morning was at 708,365 premises.

Thank you to all those readers pointing out the various interesting changes they've spotted locally and those taking their new ultrafast connections for a test drive with our speed test which helps us to keep track of what is changing across the UK.

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  • @ChucklingLion
  • comment via twitter
  • 6 months ago

Andrew, flipping the two layers is showing one or the other. Is the data still set to only have FTTP or Gfast and not both?

  • jumpmum
  • 6 months ago

"a FTTP option of 330 Mbps (and in theory 1000 Mbps if someone will sell it to you)."

More a head end limitation that supplier ultimately. ECI etc

Bit surprised by the overlap now...thought we'd start to see this happening '20-21 when much of the preplanned works finishes.

  • Croft12
  • 6 months ago

There are postcodes with both Gfast and FTTP on the map, there is not hundreds, but will be some more once the next map update happens.

The postcode search on https://labs.thinkbroadband.com/local/postcode-search is only highlighting the FTTP but knows the postcode has both. That will change later today.

  • andrew
  • thinkbroadband staff
  • 6 months ago

Please change the maps from opening with Constituency, probably the last thing most people want to know about!

  • Somerset
  • 6 months ago

Hi Broadband Watchers.
Where FTTC has overlay with fibre you may find on some that the fibre has been extended to the next Post Codes which has been covered by exterding the route taking in a nother CAB they have also opened up Post Codes toward the Cab.

  • Blackmamba
  • 6 months ago

Mind trying that again but in coherent English?

FYI though FTTP covers individual premises not postcodes and is a separate build from the fibre paths feeding FTTC.

The FTTC fibre paths are point to point and basically insignificant in terms of an FTTP build.

The areas you are thinking of are probably in Surrey as that's the centre of the Openreach universe and are nothing to do with this programme, being as they are BDUK-funded infill of premises a long way from cabinets.

These are nothing at all to do with FTTC or BDUK, they are commercial ultrafast with changed technology mix.

  • CarlThomas
  • 6 months ago

Where FTTP is shown to be available alongside FTTC and G.fast, would this be the very expensive Fibre on Demand or is it a separate FTTP product?

  • milesm
  • 6 months ago

FTTP of the not on demand variety. Almost everywhere with FTTC has FTTP on demand advisable.

  • CarlThomas
  • 6 months ago

Hi Carl. There are many Post Codes (Addresses) in Surrey that have not been identified by Thinkbroadband as having fibre plus many more with all in one Cabs which are open for service.

  • Blackmamba
  • 6 months ago

So do as others are doing and let us know about them so we can take a look and add them.

Are we talking 5? 10? 100? 1000? 10,000?

Surrey is a large area to play a guessing game with

  • andrew
  • thinkbroadband staff
  • 6 months ago

Hi Andrew Staff.
I will send to you on Thursday when I return home infills and the pure fibre the ones you have overlooked.

  • Blackmamba
  • 6 months ago

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