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Who says you cannot have FTTP, DOCSIS, G.fast and VDSL2 all in one property?

We found our first cabinet area that had a mixture of G.fast and FTTP last week and this week things have got very odd as in Bath there is a one building that has a choice of three ultrafast broadband options in addition to your usual VDSL2 and ADSL2+ services i.e. it has full fibre, g.fast and Virgin Media cable.

Victoria Buildings BA2 3EH looks like it had FTTP added at probably around the same time as other premises around Midland Road, Percy Terrace and Longmead Terrace, but unlike most of the other buildings which are fibre only Victoria Buildings also had a traditional copper network installed and was served VDSL2 via cabinet 17.

The theory behind the G.fast roll-outs is that premises which get G.fast will not see Fibre to the Premises also from Openreach (of course their competitors may deliver FTTP) so this single postcode may prove to be the exception who could reflect the future in a few years where as the Openreach FTTP roll-out increases into the millions of premises that there will be more edge cases.

In other G.fast news we have seen a number of G.fast pods appear live on the Bath Kingsmead exchange and three other areas across the UK were added to our checker on Wednesday. The new areas being Tottington near Bury, Locks Heath near Portsmouth and St Marychurch in Torquay and this takes the G.fast footprint present in our checker to 1,171,919 premises and a combined Openreach ultrafast footprint of 1,802,916 premises. The G.fast footprint is made up of 4,059 pods across 216 exchanges.

The map of G.fast coverage is in the process of being updated, all the layers apart from the highest zoom level have the latest G.fast coverage postcodes on them.

The situation of G.fast and Openreach FTTP in the same location is currently not handled by our package search, this postcode which is currently unique as far as we are aware will only show FTTP, cable, VDSL2 and ADSL2+ service availability but given that now this scenario has happened once and may therefore repeat will be teaching the system to flag G.fast service availability too.

Comments

@thinkbroadband Would be nice to have that choice and not the package constraints of being connected to FTTC

  • @WorkingtonFibre
  • comment via twitter
  • 14 days ago

G.Fast might turn from being presented as a panacea in 2013-15 to being a form of adding just more throughput in FTTC areas. This BT conversion to FTTP has a increasingly damasacene quality to it. If they could turn on some FTTP Demand Aggregation proposition for rural in-fill matters would be fully transformed.

  • ValueforMoney
  • 14 days ago

G.FAST - Zombie technology. Should have been dropped by BT as soon as they realised that 'DLSAM on a lamppost' wasn't a cost effective way of dealing with not spots. Areas that currently have VDSL should be on a direct path toward FTTP.

But, sadly, it seems G.FAST just will not die.

  • AndrueC
  • 14 days ago

@AndrueC
g.fast is a relatively cheap solution in the interim to upgrade those who are fairly close to their FTTC cab. Its certainly not a replacement for full fat fibre, ie those areas which have g.fast availability will still get FTTP at some point. Though how soon is anyone's guess...

  • baby_frogmella
  • 14 days ago

I'm on the Kingsmead exchange,had pod on my cabinet 39 since August last year, still not live.

  • Nightglow
  • 14 days ago

@Nightglow when did you last look at availability? Since people in BA2 6ST are told it is available via cabinet 39

  • andrew
  • thinkbroadband staff
  • 14 days ago

Sorry Andrew, should have added a post code (BA2 6UY), as most likely more than one cabinet 39 in Bath.

  • Nightglow
  • 14 days ago

There can only be one cabinet 39 on the Bath Kingsmead exchange and its the same cabinet I was talking about.

Your issue is you are too far from the cabinet and pod to see G.fast appear as on option. If you think the cabinet is close then you may be looking at cabinet 15 which is closer to you but does not serve you.

  • andrew
  • thinkbroadband staff
  • 14 days ago

Apologies Andrew, just realise my error,my line comes via the High St,some years ago it got reroute to the rear pole instead of front pole,it shorten distance to cabinet by several hundred metres,has always shown issues on checker,etc.
The house at bottom of my lane is BA2 6ST postcode,High Street,it showing G Fast(176mb clean - 123mb impacted),my pole is almost next to this house.

  • Nightglow
  • 14 days ago

BA2 6UL which is Holcombe Lane has G.fast as option for some premises but does run out eventually, and we estimate no G.fast for them.

If you head other way via Dark Lane both Openreach and us think BA2 6SZ will get no G.fast

  • andrew
  • thinkbroadband staff
  • 14 days ago

I'm in the Locks Heath area as mentioned as going live. It's not showing up on my cab at the moment. I'm 900m away, so I guess I wont get g.fast anyway?

  • FlappySocks
  • 13 days ago

Meanwhile in deepest, darkest central London, less than a mile from BT’s headquarters, Life in the oh so slow lane continues unchanged.

  • Desmond
  • 12 days ago

@Desmond
If it’s important to you, what have you done about it? There are plenty of options to co-fund etc, or are you just waiting for someone else to sort it out for you?

  • New_Londoner
  • 12 days ago

You are making assumptions. They would be wrong.

  • Desmond
  • 12 days ago

^^^ Can you enlighten us further? Perhaps a postcode?

  • baby_frogmella
  • 12 days ago

I can an offer the alternate, no FTTP, no DOCSIS, no G.fast, no VDSL2 and no ADSL2+

  • brianhe
  • 10 days ago

desmond so less that a mile from St pauls could be one of about 5 exchange either north or south of the river ,perhaps some more detail would help.

  • fastman
  • 10 days ago

@brianhe
Do you live here by any chance?
https://bit.ly/2E9vyQw

  • baby_frogmella
  • 10 days ago

No just on the WSSAQ exchange too far from the cabinet.

  • brianhe
  • 10 days ago

@WorkingtonFibre It would nice to even have FTTC ! ADSL2+ @ 12Mb is my lot....

  • jimwillsher
  • 9 days ago

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