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IDNet sets its crosshairs on the gaming broadband community

Gamers are seen as being the most demanding broadband users, as they want low reliable latency with no packet loss and minimal jitter, plus also a rather large download habit as they now buy a lot of their content as digital downloads. IDNet has stepped into this market with unlimited ADSL2+ and VDSL2 (FTTC) services on a gamer specific portal at gaming.idnet.uk which in addition to the usual IDNet products include elevated traffic priority.

One very interesting aspect is that the FTTC service is provisioned over the up to 76 Mbps service (with up to 19 Mbps uploads), and there are two good reasons, firstly it will ensure you get the best possible speeds from the line and the up to 76 Mbps service carries a higher priority for traffic if congestion occurs in the Openreach part of the network. We asked which Openreach DLM profile is used and lines start with the speed setting, which should mean no interleaving and lowest latency, but only after time once a line has been running will people know if the DLM system will happily not add interleaving. With respect to the up to 76 Mbps service, if you are on VDSL2 now and getting a connection speed under 38 Mbps switching to the up to 76 Mbps will not boost speed, some people do see improvements when switching but this is usually down to a change in the Dynamic Line Management (DLM) profile or a modem that handles a line, G.INP and/or vectoring better.

In terms of pricing the VDSL2 service is £61.80 per month (including line rental) and also includes a single static IPv4 address and a /48 block of IPv6 addresses. Transfers from a full LLU service cost £75, but if on SMPF migrations are free (new lines cost £125).

Broadband hardware options are available, you opt to supply your own modem and router, or several options are available, starting at £75 for a BillionNLv2, or a TP-Link VR-900 for £135 or a Comtrend VDSL2 modem with a choice of a Netduma router (£210) or Asus RT-AC3200 router (£270). The Comtrend VR 3030 modem does use a Broadcom chipset with G.INP and Vectoring support, as does the TP-Link VR-900, the Billion does not support G.INP and Vectoring so if chasing the ultimate speeds may be best avoided. We would add that while Asus does have some VDSL2 modem/router products experiences from users on our forums suggest the VDSL2 side is far from being great, i.e. they make nice routers but not so good on the modem side. IDNet let you opt for a 24 month contract which reduces the price of the hardware, to either free or half price. The hardware pricing may look high, but the costs are not far off what you can get from places like Amazon.

If you only have ADSL2+ available to you, then you can still sign-up but will obviously only get ADSL2+ type speeds, the unlimited service costing £47.40 per month, and the lower upload speeds of ADSL2+ will seriously hamper your ability to stream via twitch while gaming, but a good line with a good provider should still allow for a decent latency performance when gaming.

The more expensive wireless routers may seem a waste when all good gamers know that you need an Ethernet cable connecting your PC or console to your broadband, but many of the better wireless routers include QoS, meaning you can be cruel and limit the activities of the rest of your home so your latency does not rocket because someone else is downloading something over the connection.

Comments

Their stingy data limits won't attract many gamers.

  • Going_Digital
  • 7 months ago

Interesting, seems they finally got rid of their tiny data limits, I left them years ago because of those limits.

  • Going_Digital
  • 7 months ago

A good few years ago I remember IDNET getting rid of data limits on their ADSL1/ADSL2+ packages. Within weeks their network became crippled as every P2P freeloader on these shores joined them. Not long after, they were forced to re-introduce data limits in order to kick off the leechers. I wonder how long their unlimited packages will last for this time...

  • baby_frogmella
  • 7 months ago

MrSaffron, U are wrong there. You stated ' the Billion does not support G.INP and Vectoring ' as this billion does indeed support G.INP and Vectoring. Because I got one. My VDSL2 was G.INP enabled.

  • adslmax
  • 7 months ago

IDNet's hardware prices
Comtrend VR3030 VDSL2 modem + Netduma R1 router = £210
Comtrend VR3030 VDSL2 modem + Asus RT-AC3200 router = £270
Yet the Netduma & Asus routers on Amazon are £150 and £190 respectively. Is the VDSL2 really worth £60-£80? I doubt it...

  • baby_frogmella
  • 7 months ago

^^ I meant "VDSL2 modem"

  • baby_frogmella
  • 7 months ago

Billion Features

Easy to set up ADSL2+, VDSL2 (FTTC)Fibre modem router for use with all UK networks inc. BT Infility, Sky Fibre, TalkTalk etc.
Rock solid Broadcom chipset with SNR adjustments for optimum performance on ADSL/ADSL2/ADSL2+ lines and vectoring and G.INP support on VDSL
2.4 GHZ Wireless N with detachable antennas, multiple SSIDs and parental control time scheduling
1 x Gigabit, 4 x 10/100 ports plus USB port for NAS, hardware wireless on/off switch, IPv6 ready

  • adslmax
  • 7 months ago

Yet another ISP wanting to bundle line rental with DATA and certainly not giving VFM IMO

  • tommy45
  • 7 months ago

how else would they do it

  • leexgx
  • 7 months ago

@leexgx what do you mean they aren't subsiding the bb price at all the price for 80/20 fttc home is £26.50 the price for this gaming FTTC 80/20 without the line rental would be £47.80 per month, an extra £21.30 for BTW elevated traffic priority that raises the threshold of what BTW deem acceptable throughput levels from40mbps to 60mbps wow, but they don't guarantee it with an sla though,

Then there is their IMO bold claims about ping's being low and implying to offer lower than other providers can, if they are using BTw WMBC they can't control much at all

  • tommy45
  • 7 months ago

@tommy45 As of writing, IDNet use Zen back-haul, certainly for my connection. I know this cause I'm on them right now, from a migration from Zen, and during the switch over, my connection didn't drop like it normally does.

To address your concerns regarding latency issues, I have noticed no latency issues on my IDNet line, but have noticed general speed slowdowns during peak times. This is all available for your viewing pleasure @ http://tbb.lnx.co/

  • epicle
  • 7 months ago

Well Zen Migrated me over to their GEA backhaul a few months back and base latency to some uk destinations was around 1ms less than it was when using BTW backhaul, And was higher for USA destinations, because i live up in the north west and got routed to their london data center on Zen's backhaul, but get routed in a more direct way via zen's Manchester data centre using BTW , why they did not route me via manchester when on their own network ???????? it doesnt add up ,
So for me latency would increase to some destinations especially those overseas

  • tommy45
  • 7 months ago

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