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Fibre on Demand in Wales, available but not available

Fibre on Demand (FoD) or to give its longer name, FTTP built out from the existing aggregation node on a custom basis is back in the news again after many months when a stop sale order was placed.

The current situation as we have been informed by the BT Group is that in Wales Fibre on Demand is available from Openreach, but BT Wholesale still has its stop sale order in place. Of course the service is available on an open basis to any other CP that is willing to pick up the data and backhaul it from the appropriate fibre handover node (usually the larger exchange in an area), so in theory LLU operators such as Sky, TalkTalk, Vodafone, Zen, Daisy or as we are talking Wales Spectrum could choose to take up the offer.

Nothing has changed yet on the price front that we are aware of, so still a three year contract, £99+VAT per month from Openreach for the 330 Mbps service and the cost of the install which will be in the £1000's.

So why available in Wales from Openreach? Mainly because the contract in Wales states 100 Mbps or faster to be available 40%. It was pretty much always expected that this would involve FoD and we were only expecting it to be start to be pushed once FoD2 with hopefully lower pricing and shorter lead times became available.

How long will the BT Wholesale stop sale notice remain in place we don't know, but will keep our usual pestering up to hopefully find out once available, so those willing to spend some of their savings can do so.

NOTE: FoD is different from areas where WBC FTTP appears as available to order, which is actually available at a variety of speeds from 38 Mbps and upwards and at the same price as FTTC at the wholesale level. Famously some installs of native FTTP have attracted excess construction costs, but until a new USO becomes legally binding and price limits put in place this will remain a risk.


Isn't FTTP actually 40Mbps as there's no variability in what you get - order 40Mbps and get 40Mbps?

  • dogbark
  • over 3 years ago

No. Capped at 40Mb but has overheads so is 38Mb after those are taken out.

  • Dixinormous
  • over 3 years ago

With the connected cities vouchers now ended no one will be able to afford this anyway. so they might as well not bother.

  • ZenUser27
  • over 3 years ago

The Welsh BDUK project only placed the 100Mbps to 40% requirement on the intervention area, not on the commercial area.

Would the connected cities vouchers have applied within the BDUK intervention area, even if they hadn't suspended them?

  • WWWombat
  • over 3 years ago

No idea. I am in cardiff and my area was Eligable all I know. We already have FTTC serving.

But now it's going to be a few FTTC lined Bonded. Spectrum Internet will also do 330/30 that way for £110 a month which is about the same (that's including VAT)

They are about a mile from me too which is good. I like local companys

  • ZenUser27
  • over 3 years ago

An FTTC router will connect at 40M. Speed tests will show less.

  • Somerset
  • over 3 years ago

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