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FTTP in Wales via the Superfast Cymru project

The largely FTTC based roll-out from the various Government funded broadband projects across the UK is a large and is an easy target for those complaining about money wasted on broadband roll-outs, but the roll-outs are not just FTTC based. Westminster recently proudly announced that we had passed the 1 million properties milestone, with this million able to order a superfast fibre based service landmark recently (in Wales the figure was 190,393).

A good number of the individual projects, including the Welsh Government project tasked with the large task of bringing fibre based services to 96% of premises have talked about making some native FTTP available, and the first signs of this happening in Wales are evident.

  • Abersoch Properties connected to cabinets 4 and 5 on this exchange now have native FTTP available to order, which is around 80 properties. Indications are that more FTTP may appear on this exchange too.
  • Culverhouse Cross Only around 20 properties on cabinet 29, but believe this may climb to well over 100 as the roll-out continues.
  • Gaerwen Around 100 premises with live access to GEA-FTTP services, mainly concentrated on an industrial estate (LL60 6HR). Perhaps another 100 more to be enabled.
  • Gorseinon Properties connected to cabinet P37, now have FTTP available to order. Looks to be around 15 properties in a business park.
  • Llanberis LL55 4EF postcode with around 15 premises has FTTP available, but believe this is the tip of the iceberg as some 400 may have FTTP once roll-out completes on exchange.
  • Maeglas FTTP roll-out concentrated around Cleppa Park (NP10 8FZ), checks suggest it is available to around 70 premises, with maybe another 100 on the way.
  • Mold If you live in Victory Court (CH7 1GL) then congratulations you can order FTTP. This may mean just around 20 live properties, but again more are in the pipeline.
  • Morriston Fibre to the premises covering the Swansea Industrial Park, we believe around 70 properties can order the service now with the roll-out continuing to cover the majority of the park (another 100 or more lines).

This is NOT Fibre on Demand, but native FTTP, which means it is available at speeds between 40 Mbps and 330 Mbps (maximum of 30 Mbps upload) and the wholesale pricing is the same as the FTTC services which are more widely available. For business use, providers such as AAISP and Claranet are just two of the alternatives to the standard BT Business services.

Business parks invariably have a large footprint geographically which often means lots of cabinets needed to serve it, or FTTC speeds will be low. So seeing FTTP being rolled out suggests that while the money available is no where near enough to do universal FTTP in the intervention areas where it makes sense it is being rolled out. Exactly how much FTTP will appear across Wales is not known at this time, but we believe it may rival Cornwall for the amount of FTTP available in the end.

Update 3:30pm Added another four exchange areas that have some FTTP availability.


This is good, though people in urban areas can potentially feel somewhat vexed that their taxes are paying for premises to receive better services than they have available to them.

I can't claim to understand the economics behind BT paying half the bills and finding they can deploy FTTP on that basis either here or in Cornwall, nonetheless a good result for these people.

I look on paying half again the price for a fraction the speed in envy!

  • Dixinormous
  • over 6 years ago

They can't complain - if they want better broadband then they can move, it's their choice to live where they do. That's what those sort of people have been saying for years to people who are in areas that have always been neglected by commercial rollouts and not even on speeds at the moment that can sustain basic Youtube or iPlayer.

  • csimon
  • over 6 years ago

So move if you want better broadband!,! Depopulate Rural Wales. What about farmers who have to be online to register cattle movement etc. without them you would struggle to get your basic foodstuff? How come Iceland can provide near universal 3G (and localised 4G) in a much tougher and wilder terraine? The Icelandic government made a decision to build WiMax masts to ensure rural coverage. BT started the Broadband Wales in 2000 and we are still waiting on their cable dominated coversge. My suggestion is that csimon move back a century with such a "let peasants eat cake" attitude.

  • dafyddl
  • over 6 years ago

@dafyddl - erm, you misunderstood me! It's that tpye of person I'm lampooning here, I'm in rural Wales myself and have been neglected and looks like I'm in one of these FTTP areas reconginsed above. I am sick to death over th eyars of having people on these forums saying that I should move if I want better BB. Now it's the other way around, with Dixinormous saying that people in urban areas will now feel miffed because the rural areas are getting better BB. So I say to them, they can move, as that's what they've been saying to me over the years!

  • csimon
  • over 6 years ago

My suggestion would actually RE-populate rural Wales!

  • csimon
  • over 6 years ago

In fact, I can't wait for the complaints to start coming in from people that public money is being used to improve services in areas that are not their own! They should think themselves lucky anyway, the government's flagship policy of putting public services into private hands worked for them - it gave them ADSL and FTTC in record time that is the envy of the whole EU apparently. It's just that the public sector is providing large amounts of FTTP instead...

  • csimon
  • over 6 years ago

Note that Superfast Cymru have a target of 96% on a fibre-based service by 2016, and the WAG are even now tendering for the final 4%. This may well see Wales in a much better position than parts of England which seemingly have no plans for the final x% at the moment. The benefits of devolved power... Superfast Cymru have not exactly been open with their plans but if the targets are met then all well and good.

  • csimon
  • over 6 years ago

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