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Elberton back in the news as chase for faster broadband continues

The problem of mapping and how councils approach the rules governing how intervention areas should be defined will vary from County to County, and it is not always clear whether guidance from the BDUK is forthcoming, or in some cases accepted.

Elberton has been in our news before, and there is little change. The village is still marked as covered by a commercial NGA service and thus excluded from the intervention area of the Gloucestershire project. Our original digging confirmed the commercially enabled cabinet was 2.4 miles away in Alveston, what is new are some comments in the local press by the Council. Our fibre broadband guide features a range table, which at 1500 metres (~1 mile) shows an expected speed of 15 Mbps, our guess for 2.4 miles is a speed down in the 5 Mbps area.

"Because Elberton is served by a street cabinet which is part of BT's commercial roll-out, it is not eligible for any government or council funded investment. This is a large and complex project which is making good progress. We will be making a further announcement about the next communities to benefit later this month."

Quote in Gazette from South Gloucestershire Council

Maybe we have it all wrong, but while mapping by cabinet is an easy task for BT and the councils if BT is sharing the data, projects should look deeper into the speeds that people can get e.g. if a cabinet is one mile from its closest property (an extreme example but there might be a few in the UK) then little point in enabling it. Intervention decisions should be based on the likely speed for a postcode at least, and a solution considered.

There are two solutions for the people of Elberton if they stick with BT, a sub-cabinet which may still have distance issues for some, or a FTTP deployment.

At the end of the day the project in Gloucestershire is looking at 94% with superfast broadband, and while £35.6 million for the project looks a lot of money divided by 104,000 premises it is not much (£342 each), and the harsh reality may really be the cost of deploying superfast to Elberton is beyond the levels the council (and BT commercially) is willing to spend.


My family know the Guy who owns Elberton Garage. He was saying only yesterday about how he wishes he could get faster than his current speed. I know the NGA in Alveston that you speak of but now Thornbury is live and Pilning is "UE" surely they could feed them something? I think you said this one is connected elsewhere.

We run the local radio station and I will contact the gazette and see if we can get something put out about this.

  • pcoventry76
  • over 7 years ago

Maybe they should consider ADSL2+ from cabinets for cases like your hypothetical "if a cabinet is one mile from its closest property".

  • herdwick
  • over 7 years ago

This is why BDUK funding rules should have allowed a mixed supplier solution, encouraged 4G providers to provide an option from remote communities/properties.

OFCOM have awarded 4G data contracts to BT and UK Broadband and this should be used to provide broadband to more remote areas quickly. Unfortunately BT do not seem to keen to use their 4G data network for rural or remote areas., not sure why!

  • SimonWindsor
  • over 7 years ago


In theory, VDSL2 should be at least as fast as ADSL2+ for any line length, barring use of RE-ADSL2+ (which isn't used in the UK - it's a higher power output version for long lines).

So no need to use ADSL2+ from cabinets - use VDSL2, but permit it to run slower.

  • farnz
  • over 7 years ago

Now apply that rough idea while allowing for the PSD masks of the ANFP and the problems arise

Most range charts don't allow for varying dsl standards in the same bundle

  • andrew
  • thinkbroadband staff
  • over 7 years ago

ADSL 2 is used to cater to longer lines here.

Modem state: up
Up time (Days hh:mm:ss): 4 days, 1:32:43
xDSL Standard: ITU-T G.992.3

  • Dixinormous
  • over 7 years ago

The shame factor here is that when I approached gigaclear they could have included Elberton and Aust and other areas because the fibre ring would have to run past the 2 in order to the rest of the local area. (according to the data they gave me)

  • pcoventry76
  • over 7 years ago

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