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Bourne in push to join the fibre crowd

Bret Whitcombe is heading up a campaign to bring super-fast broadband to the Lincolnshire town of Bourne. He is running an online petition to try and show Openreach that the demand for its fibre based services does exist.

With the Openreach roll-out set to reach around two-thirds of the population under current plans, there will always be the have nots, the question really is how much can petitions influence Openreach (remember it is not BT Infinity from BT Retail, but BT Openreach that controls the roll-out). Bourne does not appear to be too remote, since it has acquired some five LLU providers offering ADSL2+ services, and is due to receive ADSL2+ from BT Wholesale too in 2011.

Bret was interviewed for the Stamford Mercury, where he states that many people had a standard speed of 2Mbps. Looking at our own Broadband Maps which record recent speed tests people have carried out, we can see that the peripheral areas of the town (which incidently appears to feature a lot of new build properties) do see speeds of just over 2Mbps, though oddly in some areas you see speeds of 8Mbps with a couple of hundred metres away people getting just 2Mbps.

Poor broadband performance can be a common issue in new build properties, as generally they are wired up by the builders with BT Openreach simply doing the final connection to the network, and while invariably the wiring is good for a telephone, in terms of broadband, having a phone extension in every room can cause havoc to a xDSL signal. Where people are getting slower broadband than they want, testing the internal wiring and comparing it with best practice, i.e. filtering the phone line at the entry point to the property can pay dividends. Other options where people and businesses can only get 2 to 3Mbps is to exploit bonding options, which some providers offer, admittedly this will cost more, but is something that can be accomplished in a matter of weeks.

Should providers do more about ensuring their customers are getting the best speed from their connection? It would be nice, but with the pressure on ever cheaper pricing, the spare capacity to help people ascertain whether their broadband is slow, or extension wiring is causing issues does not exist. Invariably it falls to friends, family or kind neighbours to help people, or places like our own forums which contain a great many posts on resolving wiring issues.


'Bret said many people in town currently had a standard speed of 2MBPS broadband'. Strange.

So likely that it will be in the 66%.

  • Somerset
  • over 9 years ago

It is interesting to see the divide between people trying to improve a service to a community and the groups that seem to criticise such campaigns.

It is fully appreciated that new builds do not have the best wiring and internal extensions can cause issues but do people not think that with over 15 years of IT and telecom experience someone such as myself would not have checked this first?

LLU providers are no better as they still use the BT infrastructure and the maximum speed in my area from an LLU provider is 3Mbps.

  • bretwhitcombe
  • over 9 years ago

Much of the problem is the poor rollout strategy of BT. roads as with ADSL.

FTTC is basically a residential product & not a business product. The highest demand comes from residential areas and in the residential areas it tends to be in the outer areas of towns & cities where most of the new build takes place. These areas as well tend to be more afluent These areas also tend to have long lines & no cable.

BT were moaning that in Cardiff take upwas low EXCEPT in Whitechurch. Well Whitchurh does not have cable & has long lines and is quite afluent, What a suprise

  • Bob_s2
  • over 9 years ago

I wonder a few points.
Over 6700 connections at the Bourne exchange, yet only 112 votes registered in BT's Race to Infinity campaign.
Are you sure that your neighbours want faster connections?
You say about the new builds & someone with your experience checking the wiring.
Did you check the internal wiring in each of the houses?
"maximum speed in my area from an LLU provider is 3Mbps."
O2 are showing tests of over 7Mbps, Sky shows over 11Mbps and even Virgin (non-LLU) shows over 9Mbps without cable. I thought you'd checked the wiring or are you not at this exchange?

  • greemble
  • over 9 years ago

Exactly why does Bourne 'Deserve the right' to faster broadband, anyway?
On-line petitions cannot be signed. Without a signature it is nothing more than a list of names and addresses - you could hand in a copy of the local phone directory for all the use it will be.
Finally, Petitions generally are of little use, even to elected officials. However, take a £50 from everyone that signs as a deposit for signing up to a fibre connection, then BT will take note, as long as there is at least 500+ people (preferably more) putting up their money.

Good luck.

  • greemble
  • over 9 years ago

Speed checker says he should get 3M with ADSL2+ in Jan 2012.

  • Somerset
  • over 9 years ago

My comments about the speeds in the South West corner of Bourne, are because within 500m a Sky user manages over 8Meg.

Anyone getting 2 to 2.5Meg from speedtests and a downstream attenuation under 55dB, needs to look carefully at wiring and current target noise margin.

  • andrew
  • thinkbroadband staff
  • over 9 years ago

Since when is 2M a standard speed? The 5000 should have signed up on Race to Infinity.

  • Somerset
  • over 9 years ago

It's all about raising awareness, which is what Mr Whitcombe is trying to do. The fact only 112 people voted on the RTI website from a total of 6.7k lines just goes to reinforce this.

  • krol
  • over 9 years ago

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