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First 50 homes in Bournemouth on fibre network

Bournemouth has trumped both BT and Virgin Media with the roll-out of full fibre to the home services by the i3 Group. ISPreview spotted the news that the group has now connected its first 50 homes to its fibre network, further detail is available via a press release on the Fibrecity website.

While BT at Ebbsfleet is talking of 100Mbps speeds and Virgin Media is suggested that 100 to 150Mbps is possible via its DOCSIS 3.0 network, i3 are already providing 140Mbps of connectivity. Two fibres are installed to each home, one dedicated to community TV, health and other council services running at 40Mbps. The second fibre is for use by paid for services such as IPTV, telephony and broadband access at 100Mbps (this is a symmetric speed, i.e. both downstream and upstream are 100Mbps). The release does not give any detail on the actual broadband service that is available, which hopefully the firm will add to its website soon, as for many homeowners this information will be very important.

One of the potential reasons for the lack of information is that these initial homes are being seen as a showcase and are given free access. Their aim is to ramp roll-out up to be doing 2000 homes per week and even more as they add additional cities.

Comments

wow, power to the people, well done!

  • cyberdoyle
  • over 8 years ago

The Genie is firmly out of the botle now, after years ofplanning the NGA3 deployments are finally seeing the light of day I wonder how soon it will be before BT are forced to respond with a fully fibre access network, my guess is they'll eventually ened up buying Fibrecity/i3, in a similar manner to what KPN is doing in Holland.

  • njalondon
  • over 8 years ago

Does seem like in 10 years, this sort of thing will be much more common.

  • ian9outof10
  • over 8 years ago

Hopefully we'll see an actual ISP with clearly defined products available for people on this network to sign up to - seems like this info has been "coming soon" for months.

Hopefully a TBB reader is on the network and can fill us in if this happens quietly.

  • bezuk
  • over 8 years ago

Nice, wish i lived in Bournemouth just for this reason.

I have seen from speed test site people with Fibre connections have really low pings, brilliant for gaming.

It would be good if Sky or Be* was the ISP's truly unlimited BB, not like the scumbags VM who i am with.

Yes you can have 20mb for 30mins then we will STM you for 5-10hrs!

  • sloman
  • over 8 years ago

All i can say to those that doubted this company in the past a big "HA".

Done before BT, faster and free (for now). Lets hope they manage their 2000 homes a wekk goal and more services like this become available around the country.

Quite funny really these little companies that get things done before BT, provide faster speeds and no stupid caps.

Well done to i2 Group (AKA H20 Networks) Lets hope the future of fibre is like LLU is now and those which want value and speed atleast in some areas can have it.

  • CARPETBURN
  • over 8 years ago

does this mean it will be installing uk nationwide with 2000 homes per week ? cities or town ? will every area's get it ?

  • adslmax
  • over 8 years ago

While this is great news, something tells me much like the SYDR project, much of it is being funded on the back of some project for the county council or NHS to get their workers/patients home and therefore it is effectively sponsored. I would love to be proved wrong, but whose betting those on it are under a press NDA and don't even know what their neighbour will be paying for it

  • PeteK
  • over 8 years ago

2000 a week in the Bournemouth area as the premises are fibred up, later in the year it will be Dundee. H2O has cable in the ground in several other towns already I know of Clacton, Bath Aberdeen and i think Kidderminster. Northampton was also listed as a location for a development as well.

  • njalondon
  • over 8 years ago

^^^ Nice addtional information njalondon sounds like they are serious, may have took them a while but superb to see they have finally got going :)

  • CARPETBURN
  • over 8 years ago

I wonder how much interest will continue after the tariffs are announced?

  • boots
  • over 8 years ago

I've done the initial signup for my flat in Dundee. I'll let you know via the forum how it progresses - so far I've just had the initial contract emails but no details about when etc...

  • MarcusJClifford
  • over 8 years ago

CB - It's a lot easier for small companies to do things like this than BT - BT have to keep inline with what Ofcom allows (which means months if not years of reviews, consultations etc. because of their largely dominant position in the market).

  • KarlAustin
  • over 8 years ago

The problem wirg H2O isn't that they don't do anything they just don't adequate;y publicise it. I'm sure even more places are fibred.

  • njalondon
  • over 8 years ago

quote"CB - It's a lot easier for small companies to do things like this than BT - BT have to keep inline with what Ofcom allows (which means months if not years of reviews, consultations etc. because of their largely dominant position in the market)."

Im sorry but that is rubbish all companies that provide phone or broadband services basically answer to ofcom. It comes down to one thing... MONEY and this small company should be congratulated for getting up and running.

  • CARPETBURN
  • over 8 years ago

lolol, they don't all fall in to the same regulations though, because they don't have a near monopoloy position - do you think if I went out and did fibre to 2000 homes in a city that Ofcom would apply the same rules/regs as they would to BT? No, they wouldn't.

  • KarlAustin
  • over 8 years ago

No Carpet, it's not "rubbish". BT and to an extent NTL have to go through long and expensive processes before they are allowed to launch products.

That you're not even aware of the regulations imposed by the OFCOM you love says so much.

  • Dawn_Falcon
  • over 8 years ago

Dawn_Falcon, I suggest you run along and read previously H20 Networks stories before i quote extracts and make you look even more stupid. Every comms provider is at the mercy of Ofcom, this small company has been in discussion and testing for years before it got to this stage. They are small yes. They had to spend lots of cash and get permission just like anyone else. They beat BT to it, end off.
@KarlAustin atleast you have the sense to realise BT is a monopoly.

  • CARPETBURN
  • over 8 years ago

BT get regulated but they also have market advantage in that they have brand name eg. most of BT broadband customers are there simply because they know the company. BT can also do rollouts at lower cost than anyone else as they already have infrastructure in place.

  • chrysalis
  • over 8 years ago

No Carpetburn, I suggest you read the literature on the Ofcom site which explains how they make BT justify products, expensively and over a long period - where other UK companies can freely launch services.

This small company has taken so long to get where it is because the economics are so unfavourable to it's approach.

  • Dawn_Falcon
  • over 8 years ago

If you think its only BT that answer to ofcom and have rules placed upon them harder, you are a complete idiot.
They maybe small, the economics may not be in their favour, they still beat BT to the punch though, just like LLU beat BT to ADSL2+..... Go on now spout dribble about how BT have to answer to ofcom more than for example Sky and O2 do.
Well done to i3 (AKA H2O) i say, service sounds superb i imagine the few in bournemouth are over the moon.
Face it BT are slow and live in the past, then they panic and try to play catch up.

  • CARPETBURN
  • over 8 years ago

I live in BH10 (apparently the first area to be connected) and signed up on the first day. I've yet to see any sign of activity around this area. Does anyone else from Bournemouth have any idea where these mysterious first 50 properties are?

  • zuccster
  • over 8 years ago

"to those that doubted this company in the past a big "HA".

HI.

Remember SSE Telecom's announcement(s) of their imminent "full commercial rollout" of powerline broadband?

Remember their invisible customers, even though SSE were both connectivity provider (H2O/I3 here) and ISP (who?)?

Remember SSE also had a few scattered sites which they'd used as local demonstrators (H2O do too)?

And H2O's "use the sewers" approach still needs a "street works permit" ?

I wish them luck. But it's early days.

  • c_j_
  • over 8 years ago

No Carpet, I'm accurate. You have no awareness of the actual stuation and how BT are forced by the government into a very inefficient market position.

It's very easy to beat someone to the punch when your main opponents hands are tied behind their back.

  • Dawn_Falcon
  • over 8 years ago

If it isn't a stupid question...
... why can't bt or any other company JFDI? why do they have to have consultations and waste time and money talking about it all the time? Surely it isn't that hard to shove a bit of fibre through a duct and couple it up to a POP if it is your job? I mean I don't consult for hours on how to bake a cake?

  • cyberdoyle
  • over 8 years ago

quote "No Carpet, I'm accurate. You have no awareness of the actual stuation and how BT are forced by the government into a very inefficient market position.

It's very easy to beat someone to the punch when your main opponents hands are tied behind their back."
Complete, utter and if i do dare say BT fanboy gibberish, honestly even an idiot knows the likes of Sky and O2 have to obey a laid down set of guidelines from ofcom. No one company is fingered more than another, including BT.

  • CARPETBURN
  • over 8 years ago

Keep it friendly peeps!

BT have the finances/infrastructure but may or may not be limited by the regs, i3/H20/Fibrecity may or may not be as limited by the regs but don't have as much in the way of the finances/infrastructure.

Each has their advantages over the other so it just comes down to who gets over the finish line first so fair play to i3 for getting this far.

Their engineer's vans look better too!

  • danjkent
  • over 8 years ago

Ofcom regulates different companies in different ways. The General Conditions apply to any company to offer communications service. BT on the other hand is bound by its Undertakings to offer wholesale access to all operators (via Openreach) whether external to BT or internal (ie BT Retail.) This means that BT cannot 'keep' all end users its network reaches. H2O can. This difference affects the economics of NGA.

  • blackislegirl
  • over 8 years ago

To add to an earlier post, the midlands town with H2o fibre going in to the ground is Ludlow. For a business needing visibility they're very lowkey.

http://www.shropshire.gov.uk/hwmaint.nsf/open/203083CBC8F44BB880257553005E7758

  • njalondon
  • over 8 years ago

This just for Ludlow college, not homes.

  • Somerset
  • over 8 years ago

I'm aware of that i can read as well as you can. What it illustrates is a company that's putting fibre in the ground, the Bournmouth project started off in much the same manner.

  • njalondon
  • over 8 years ago

No different to C&W, Energis, VM, Thus etc. that install fibre around the country. Hundreds of companies have licences to dig up the ground.

  • Somerset
  • over 8 years ago

'The connections are not 'live' just yet but this will be happening very shortly. The talks regarding the provider are still ongoing as far as I am aware but obviously we want to get these 50 homes live as soon as possible to highlight the network to everyone.

Once the services are live we will be doing lots of press releases showcasing the network and its capabilities so you will certainly be able to see what to expect.'

There is nothing going down the fibre at this time, it remains dark.

  • Dixinormous
  • over 8 years ago

Bit like the rest of the country then. In the dark ages. Time to light it everywhere. The end game is in sight? oh please let me see it in my lifetime.

  • cyberdoyle
  • over 8 years ago

Quantum entangled commuications? Great!

(Fiber is decidedly not an "end game")

  • Dawn_Falcon
  • over 8 years ago

You disagree with every industry analyst on that one Mr Falcon. Fibre is the end game for communications, specifically FTTO. If you have anything to back up your view it isn't beyond because BT aren't really doing it and to favour it goes against your role as our resident BT shill please do provide.

  • Dixinormous
  • over 8 years ago

Ahh now I see. Given that standard fibre to most homes is about as far away while BT maintain their duopoly with Virgin Media as quantum entangled comms I see your point! That said I don't really see the relevance of theoretical tech to real life comms at this time, but nice nitpick.

  • Dixinormous
  • over 8 years ago

Order a 'proper', non ADSL internet connection from an ISP and it will probably come on fibre.

  • Somerset
  • over 8 years ago

Something like BTnet Premium. Leased line at 10Mbps, 30Mbps & 100Mbps.

http://www.btbroadbandoffice.com/broadband-and-internet/internet-access/btnet-premium

  • Somerset
  • over 8 years ago

Given FTTH in residential areas is completely unviable economically (I know know why Verizon's doing it, given the *subsidies*..) on any rational level except potentially new-build appartments...

And there were communication media before fibre, there will be ones after fibre. Trying to position it as an "end game" is mysticism.

  • Dawn_Falcon
  • over 8 years ago

What subsidies would those be Falcon? The amount of disinformation you spread regarding FTTH is shocking.
The broadband stimulus subsidies you referred to have not been handed out, and Verizon FiOS presently passes over 12 million homes.
Nice try again though, keep swallowing the BT BS.

  • Dixinormous
  • over 8 years ago

Quick Dawn: http://www.iliad.fr/en/ - these guys need the benefit of your advice, tell them what they are doing isn't viable, after all BT say so and won't lay a single strand of fibre in brownfield, let along active fibre.

  • Dixinormous
  • over 8 years ago

As in:

As part of the roll-out of its FTTH network, the Group confirms its objective of:

  • Somerset
  • over 8 years ago

Providing horizontal coverage of 70% of Paris by the second half year
2009,

Providing horizontal coverage to 4 million households by end 2012.

  • Somerset
  • over 8 years ago

3 million more than BT plan to provide coverage to by the end of 2012, though BT won't get near their 1 million target due to slower home building.

  • Dixinormous
  • over 8 years ago

There would be a riot if BT just did London!

What does horizontal mean? Just to ground floor of multistory buildings?

  • Somerset
  • over 8 years ago

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