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Brighton joins list of Hyperoptic Gigabit cities
Tuesday 12 April 2016 15:45:30 by Andrew Ferguson

If the superfast services from the Openreach network and ultrafast broadband from Virgin Media are not enough for you and you live in Brighton then consider moving into the Sussex Heights development where the Hyperoptic Gigabit service is available.

"Brighton is renowned for being home to one of the most vibrant digital scenes in the UK. For digital communities to thrive it is imperative that they have the infrastructure that will help, rather than hinder, their development. Brighton has been on our radar as our next hyper-city for over a year - we have already been inundated with demand from developments, residents and businesses that want access to the fastest broadband in the UK so we are thrilled to announce that we are officially adding it our hyper-city club."

Philip Cooper, Director - South East, Hyperoptic

Sussex Heights should just be the first of more developments in Brighton where people will have the choice of Gigabit broadband from Hyperoptic and is the thirteenth city to welcome Hyperoptic. Hyperoptic is the second largest FTTH/B operator in the United Kingdom and if the expansion continues at the current pace it may surpass the Openreach FTTP footprint soon.

Comments

Posted by New_Londoner 8 months ago
Looking beyond the PR puff in this announcement, I note that it isn't the fastest broadband available in the UK, at least in terms of raw bandwidth as opposed to throughput (Gigaclear?). Nor is it the first provider of gigabit speed services in Brighton as there is plenty of Ethernet, which is better suited to all but the smallest of those businesses that Philip Cooper mentions.

Apart from that, the announcement is fine! ;-)
Posted by CarlThomas 8 months ago
Could be worse, New_Londoner. I believe Hyperoptic have passed more premises with FTTH/B with their own money than anyone else in the UK now.

They, along with KCOM, Gigaclear, KeyCom, CityFibre, and pretty much everyone else even use the pre-connectorised fibre Openreach are testing and Verizon have used commercially since 2005.

Wonder if their installs take 7+hours and two technician visits per unit?
Posted by mdar5 8 months ago
Well as Gigaclear don't 'install' at all and stop at the front boundary where their network termination point is put I guess their install time and cost is zero

Gigaclear really are not stupid.

They make the householder themselves pay the difficult,time consuming,expensive bit of going though the garden/driveway and into the house themselves on a job by job bespoke commercial quote basis.
Posted by chilting 8 months ago
Great news for Brighton but not much use to the rest of us in Sussex.

However, if someone could put a Fixed Wireless transmitter on the top of Sussex Heights or better still on the new i360, that would be very useful!
Posted by CarlThomas 8 months ago
@mdar5 It's not that bad. There is a fixed rate with relatively small excess on top, they aren't charging standard streetworks pricing.

Most properties will fall into the £95 bracket.

http://www.gigaclear.com/what-we-offer/for-home/home-broadband-packages/
Posted by fastman 8 months ago
hyperoptic put a 1 Gig Ethernet in a basement and then fit it into indivual apartments that want it -- that can cause massive disruption if building is occupied at the time
Posted by CarlThomas 8 months ago
Disruption comes with the territory sadly. Despite some's best efforts can't use twisted pair forever so it happens sooner or later.

Even with having to rent Openreach EADs or similar they are managing to make it work. Huge kudos to them.
Posted by CarlThomas 8 months ago
I think it's brilliant. Sharon White wants 40% FTTP/B UK coverage and if it ends up being 35% or more altnet so be it.

Hopefully we are hitting a period where competition is driven by investment rather than brand recognition and pricing.

£70 per premises passed isn't going to cut it for the next generation.
Posted by New_Londoner 8 months ago
@CarlThomas
Interesting comment on Sharon. Last time I checked, regulators and other public officials like Ofcom needed to be technology neutral, I wonder when that changed.., ;-)
Posted by CarlThomas 8 months ago
She was asked during testimony with DCMS what level of FTTP she would like to see in the UK in the next 10 year review period.

She stated repeatedly that FTTP was the inevitable future and would deliver the best services.

This is a statement of fact, not bias to a technology.
Posted by TheEulerID 8 months ago
It may be a statement of fact that FTTP gives the best service. Whether it is a statement of fact that it's cost effective to provide it given requirements is open to question. Certainly the operators of cable networks might not agree given developments in DOCSIS and it's yet to be seen if g.fast will suffice in many areas.

The medium term (at least) will be a mixture of technologies. Where there is competition with sunk costs investment cases can be difficult.
Posted by Zarjaz 8 months ago
@ CarlThomas.
"They, along with KCOM, Gigaclear, KeyCom, CityFibre, and pretty much everyone else even use the pre-connectorised fibre Openreach are testing and Verizon have used commercially since 2005."
Where are most faults on a copper network ? In the joints. Install it the cheap/fast way, tick boxes but pay later.
Pay more, splice or be damned.
Posted by WWWombat 8 months ago
I agree with Zarjaz. A century of experience tells BT where the faults are likely to be in the future.

References to Verizon et al, with their chosen method doesn't necessarily make it the /right/ method - not long term.

It will have taken a lot to persuade the chief engineers to embrace connectorisation, and the decision isn't likely to show its true colours, maintenance-wise, for another couple of decades.

Short-term marketing gain vs long-term operational pain? Think Lancia/Fiat and rust.
Posted by TheEulerID 8 months ago
@WWW

Don't forget the importance of short term political gain too.

I've no idea to what extend connectorisation will be a problem or not. I assume the technology of moisture sealing has moved on a lot, with individual waterproofed connections with multiple seals, hydrophobic gels etc. Also, optical fibre is not subject to electrochemical corrosion in the same way that copper mixed with water and 48V DC is.

Maybe it will be the optical fibre version of aluminium cable, but I assume that cables can still be fused if/when a fault occurs in the future.
Posted by CarlThomas 8 months ago
I see. Verizon having connected 7 million homes, passed 16 million and had a decade to monitor fault rates know less about doing FTTP 'right' than Openreach who've connected less than 100,000, didn't even trial connectorised in the field until last year, and required subsidy for over half of their FTTP rollout as it was so expensive with their build techniques.

Thanks for clearing that up for me. Much appreciated.
Posted by TheEulerID 8 months ago
@CarlThomas

The Verizon rollout appears mired in controversy

http://gizmodo.com/after-billions-in-subsidies-the-final-verizon-fios-map-1682854728

Not to mention that there is significant government subsidy in the US and that there is no requirement to offer wholesaling on incumbent's NGA networks.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2147360/fcc-adds-9-billion-to-broadband-subsidy-fund.html

Posted by WWWombat 8 months ago
@euler
True - politics will always be part of it.

I'm not sure splicing faults will be an option. From MrS' pictures, the "new" connector joints looks like Corning Multiport splitters/DPs, with pre-attached stub of SST fibre. That stub needs to be push/pulled back to the splice point - and will be spliced there.

But it looks like the pre-attached end (that makes it cheap to deploy) can't really be subverted from a connector-based joint into a spliced one.

And, if the connection box itself fails, it requires both a new box, and a new SST fibre stub feeding back to the splice point.
Posted by WWWombat 8 months ago
@Carl
What's good for Verizon isn't necessarily good for the UK. One reason I mentioned the Lancia/rust issue.

You've said before, and you're right, that Openreach will move slowly on this. Probably needing to hear evidence from either Verizon or Corning that the approach works for them, and then building their own base of evidence for what works here.

How else can you figure out long-term sustainability other than using a lot of time? Even if you can use acceleration techniques, figuring 20 years of wear and tear takes time.
Posted by CarlThomas 8 months ago
Both, regardless of the various politics around their deployment they and many others are using a combination of pre-connectorised fibre as a primary solution with splicing only where necessary. They splice and place connectors onto that fibre in the field rather than in a factory.

The only issue I've seen reported is that splicing is lower loss.

I'd say millions of installs and the maintenance savings - http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/05/20/verizon_fibre_is_so_much_cheaper_than_copper_were_going_allfttp/ - indicate it's working for Verizon.
Posted by CarlThomas 8 months ago
I should mention I am aware that Verizon are vertically integrated and have had various concessions but that isn't my point. My point is they, AT&T, CenturyLink, Hyperoptic, KeyCom, CityFibre, Gigaclear, etc, may have a point using pre-connectorised solutions that Openreach only now, given their ever-expanding Swindon trial, seem to be getting.

Verizon cover from Atlantic to Pacific and everything in between so no UK-specific environmentals.

The comment regarding Openreach subsidy references how expensive their FTTP has been. What they spent, given the pre-existing ducts, is ridiculous.

Posted by mdar5 8 months ago
Just to add (and yes I am on a Gigaclear connection and was on the local committee trying to get them here)
They splice their joints in the field at the fibre splitter points where the house supply individual cables leave the multi-fibre core cables.

The joints at the network termination point at each house front boundary are in what looks like IP66 grade boxes inside an external 'pot' and within are simple single mode SC type connectors.
Posted by JacktheMac 8 months ago
mdar 5 wrote: 'They (Gigaclear) make the householder themselves pay the difficult,time consuming,expensive bit of going though the garden/driveway and into the house themselves.'

It’s none of those things. For 80% of properties it’s £95 or FREE if you DIY.

Source: bit.ly/1SO9577
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