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25 million premises passed by Openreach VDSL2 or FTTP network
Monday 11 April 2016 09:56:21 by Andrew Ferguson

The predominant use of VDSL2 technology in the roll-outs from Openreach since 2009 is widely criticised but it has meant that some 25 million premises are now passed by the Openreach network with either a VDSL2 solution or for a small number FTTP.

The 25 million does not include a base line speed, so will include premises too far from the cabinet to benefit from superfast speeds, but as we are finding for many of those the VDSL2 speeds are still better than the ADSL or ADSL2+ speeds they had available. The Openreach press release highlights that availability at superfast speeds is roughly double that of France and UK take-up is 50% higher than in Germany, twice as high as Spain and twelve times that of Italy.

"The UK is making great progress with fibre broadband. Availability and take up are well ahead of most European countries and I’d like to thank the thousands of Openreach engineers who have worked so tirelessly to make this happen.

The job isn’t finished however and we are working hard to get coverage to 95 per cent and above. We are also exploring how we can improve speeds for the million or so premises in the final few per cent of the country.

Our approach has delivered affordable superfast services to the vast majority of the country in the fastest possible time. We want to build upon that by making ultrafast broadband available to most of the UK. We will do this using a mix of technology and Fibre-to-the-Premises (FTTP), with the latter focused mainly on new developments and small businesses in high streets and business parks."

Clive Selley, CEO of Openreach

The criticism of Openreach tends to follow two paths, either the roll-out is too slow and people just want anything better so they can watch streamed video and then the other path is criticism for not using a FTTP heavy roll-out and thus having to revisit areas in the next few years for the roll-out. To accelerate the roll-out generally means a larger workforce, but to also commit to a high proportion of FTTP means a substantially larger workforce with the attendant rise in costs due salaries and the other costs of employing people.


Posted by Llety 7 months ago
Just anything better, stuff streaming video, thats a dream. We have not had working broadband since xmas, worked for 4 years, now the copper cable which is tied to a fence has degraded too much, phone works about 1/2 the time and Openreach can't replace it yet as their Contractors used the wrong cable downsteram in late 2014 and their are capacity problems. Still having to pay for it each month, even though it does not work. Pattern effects at least 10 other householdslocally. But as long as BT are making money, that all that matters, the health of the UK economy is distant 2nd in importance.
Posted by 21again 7 months ago
Most folk in my area just want faster BB than the 2-3 Meg they can get on a good day, not everyone in the UK wants FTTC (monthly cost?)even though the provision is there, I wonder what the actual domestic uptake of FTTC is wthin each of England,Scotland,Wales and NI
Posted by TheEulerID 7 months ago
In July 2015 if was reported that OR had around 4.6m FTTC/P subscribers with a coverage of 83% of premises. If we make the conservative assumption that's 4.4m FTTC out of 24.2m enabled lines, that's about 18%. If the reported rate of growth continued, then it should be about 5m out of 25m lines (20%).
As far as your position goes there's probably no middle ground between implementing FTTC/P and your current speeds as the options for improving the local loop are very limited (things like thicker copper).
Posted by andrew (Favicon staff member) 7 months ago

5.5 million on a GEA service
Posted by CarlThomas 7 months ago
Good to have some clarity on the focus for the mix between and FTTP. FTTP for business parks, high streets, new builds, and rural and other areas where subsidised, elsewhere.

It was implied to me that Openreach would have something of a speed competition with Virgin Media, however isn't going to cut it for that in the short term, let alone in the DOCSIS 3.1 future, so likely it's not such a concern after all.
Posted by tiggerrmummy 7 months ago
We are now on fibre, but superfast it isnt and nor is it reliable. We are thinking of ditching it and going back to adsl... that was consistant and constant. As for these magical speeds we are supposed to get, thats a joke for a start. Its no faster than adsl here and adsl is cheaper.
Posted by gerarda 7 months ago
more pr puff - "fibre" broadband doesn't equal superfast or even any speed faster than the existing ADSL service .
Posted by hexhamshirejohn 7 months ago
We struggle to get 1mbps and BT have told the community that there is no prospect of it ever getting better. Only 4 miles from Hexham can hardly be described as very rural so why can nothing be done? Or is the real answer that Bt is not prepared to live up to its obligations?
Posted by JNeuhoff 7 months ago
@tiggerrmummy: I doubt you were ever on fibre, because if you were you wouldn't have experienced these issues. It looks to me your were on a copper-VDSL line only.
Posted by JNeuhoff 7 months ago
@gerarda: Genuine fibre broadband is normally more than superfast (>24Mbps). Unfortunately, most people have been brainwashed into believing that they can "fibre" when in fact it isn't.
Posted by burble 7 months ago
Do the figures include rates for churn?
I know of several people who went FTTC on commercial roll out who have now gone back to ADSL.
Posted by andrew (Favicon staff member) 7 months ago
Premises passed does not include churn, last quarters results gave reported take-up of 5.5 million and that will include churn etc
Posted by MCM999 7 months ago
@hexhamshirejohn "Or is the real answer that Bt is not prepared to live up to its obligations?" What obligations? Please elaborate and are these whether legal or moral. Do you consider Virgin Media to have the same obligations and if not, why?
Posted by themanstan 7 months ago
4 miles outside a very small market town is quite rural... are you in N.Pennines AONB?
Posted by michaelkenward 7 months ago
Maybe @themanstan is hinting that AONB rules mean no more nasty cables and stuff. People can forget that their desire for the rural idyll can mean none of those nasty telecoms masts, and living in a mobile "not spot".
Posted by leexgx 7 months ago

fibre broadband does not mean fibre broadband unfortunately (unless you attuly are getting FTTP) unless you in the lucky 1% to get FTTP (or FTTB then Cat6 to each flat) or the 40-49% if you can get virgin without your cab been oversubscribed but i believe vigin have corrected most areas now

DOCSIS3.1 is coming and the new super hub 3 are coming already preconfigured with 16 down channels on 3.0 mode but still only 2 upstream channels so still can get congested on upstream (which is the problem on cable, not download reliability)
Posted by Mudshark 7 months ago
I disagree with the statement " but as we are finding for many of those the VDSL2 speeds are still better than the ADSL or ADSL2+ speeds they had available." I think that my line would improve to 5meg from the paltry 1.25meg I get at the moment but I'm being denied the chance. My cabinet is enabled but I'm too far away to get "superfast" speeds!
Posted by andrew (Favicon staff member) 7 months ago
@Mudshark We did say many rather than everyone, on some lines ADSL/ADSL2+ can perform better due to the ratio of the distances involved, and this is taken into account in our statistics.

If your checker estimate is below 15 Mbps some providers may not connect you too, so worth checking around and often avoiding the biggest providers.
Posted by dandodex 6 months ago
I am sure A&A would connect you under 15Mbps on VDSL2. Some of the other small providers would too. It's just the big ones that refuse.
Posted by CarlThomas 6 months ago
@leexgx Actually at this time the issues with VM related to downstream capacity and usage, not upstream.

The networks are obviously asymmetrical however usage is becoming increasingly asymmetrical as people make more use of streaming to receive their media.
Posted by Ageingted 6 months ago
If you have a cabling problem use this emailk.
I got a response in hours, an engineer within 48hrs, a road closure in a week and all fixed in 2 weeks.
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