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Work to take superfast broadband to 95% of Swindon to start Summer 2015
Friday 05 September 2014 09:24:10 by Andrew Ferguson

Swindon is one of those areas that opted out of the original BDUK process but it looks like the 95% superfast target for 2017 has attracted the councils attention, no doubt helped by the continued complaints of slow speeds from new build areas such as Priory Vale (located to the North of the Orbital Shopping Park).

The local authority finished taking submissions to its Open Market Review at the end of August and is indicating procurement will complete by February 2015 with actual deployment starting in the summer of 2015 with the aim of finishing for 2017.

The local press coverage highlights a myth that has built up and the wording used by DCMS and many others helps to keep the myth going that the BDUK processes are just about rural areas, when the reality is that any area that go awarded central funding and followed the procurement process was able to take part, be they urban, semi-urban or rural. Some £3 million (half from Westminster and half from Swindon Council) is available as the public funding, and the council are going to be hard to bargain with since they walked away from the original BDUK process because they felt the level of private investment on the table was too low.

It is interesting to look at our broadband maps for the area and a good many properties in Priory Vale are able to get fairly good ADSL2+ speeds, but with the Virgin Media network ending at the very edge of the most recent builds and the hi-tech nature of many of Swindon residents means superfast speeds to allow multiple activities at the same time will be high on the want list. The results across the Swindon Unitary Authority are a median download 19.3 Mbps, and an upload of 2.7 Mbps, with 10% recording speeds above 77 Mbps, and at the other end 10% are getting 3.1 Mbps or slower.

One potential difficulty is that the modern planning style of intricate curved roads lead to longer line lengths and if FTTC is deployed will mean good cabinet placement is crucial to secure high speeds and for cable and FTTH/P deployments may increase costs as more cabling is needed.

Comments

Posted by Blackmamba over 2 years ago
Hi Broadband Watchers.
I think it is to expensive for the customers on Haydon Wick Exchange who are in Market 3 to be provided with FTTC/P using public money.
Posted by PhilCoates over 2 years ago
^I am sure the residents will be grateful for your contribution.
Posted by fastman over 2 years ago
Backmanba not sure how you come to that conclusion frankly -- if there is a OMR then that will be determined what is in the intervention area that is a no build exchange so if there was no other operator in that exchange it could then be eigible for intervention -- then its a value for money conversation between successfu bidder and LA - ony way it woud be out was is the entire area was aready black (ie Virgin / or someone else
Posted by Blackmamba over 2 years ago
Hi Phil (see phil40phil) Ex BT. The above exchange Haydon Wick customers have been let down by BT, talktalk, Sky, plus others because of the open market 3 ( open to all ISP!s ). I hope the customers on the exchannge above will be supplied with there required survice but not at the price of the Tax payer.EU rules. I did work with a person from Swindon at Reading Exchange Area.
Posted by Blackmamba over 2 years ago
Hi Fastman. I just hope BT will pay for the say 10 cabs at 20k that may be required on 1.5 k customers a good investment.
Posted by Blackmamba over 2 years ago
Hi Fastman . Just checked on Elgin and I think thee price is dropping on the Cabs as the the fibre is at the Cab locations.
Posted by fastman over 2 years ago
i wont comment on my day job as thats irrelevant in this case however as indicated if this exchange is eigible for intervention -- then its a value for money conversation between successfu bidder and IA -(Vaue for money is all around cost per customer and also any areas of priority - so close knot excnage which high density of premises with low adsl could be relative low cost per cusomer as opposed to sparse hamlet servied by buried cable - Thats a dedision between LA and contracting party

Posted by Blackmamba over 2 years ago
Hi Fastman.
The Cost is per Cab plus the fibre port connection on a market 3 installation as this removes the location to the street . The cost of a Cab is the same in all locations the extra is the provision on the fibre and ducting.
Posted by andrew (Favicon staff member) over 2 years ago
Power, are traffic lights needed, returning surfaces to standard, ag node chamber costs and the small factor of labour
Posted by Blackmamba over 2 years ago
Hi A/S
Thanks for the above.
Is it possible for you to tell me who changes the colours on the Post Codes when an Cab Area is changed over to FTTC from the original data.
Is it automatic or typed in.
Posted by andrew (Favicon staff member) over 2 years ago
@blackmamba

What colours and where?
Posted by Blackmamba over 2 years ago
When your go on Thinkbroadband map and check the post codes at Churt it shows red on the original estermated.
This area has a FTTC open so in that area it should be green are they changed automaticley or typed in.
Posted by Blackmamba over 2 years ago
Hi a/s
I think I have found the reason I will return to you on Monday have a good weekend.
Posted by andrew (Favicon staff member) over 2 years ago
I think logic also dictates that with 1.7 million postcodes in the UK we won't be hand typing in information.
Posted by Blackmamba over 2 years ago
Hi a/s
I feel you will have problems when you overlay old information with new when the sending point Exchange Dslam is moved say a mile to its new location.
Eg Hindhead exchange X road is showing yellow when it should be green on the new cab location when locked to FTTC.
You do not show a red next to a Cab FTTC.
Posted by Blackmamba over 2 years ago
Hi A/S
The Hindhead X road Cab is only .2 of a mile from the Exchange DSLM so the old data must be incorrect.
Posted by Blackmamba over 2 years ago
Hi A/S
If your get Hindhead Area correct on you D/ Base the rest of Uk will drop in.
As I maintained Hindhead Exchange X Bar it works on the same principles as FTTC in the 1970 but at a lower speed.
Posted by Blackmamba over 2 years ago
Hi A/S
As (we ) had the post codes plus the d/base technology It was no problem to calculate the speeds in the Hindhead Area in just a few hours.
Posted by Blackmamba over 2 years ago
Hi A/s
This was to the post code in distance and speed plus or -10%.
Posted by andrew (Favicon staff member) over 2 years ago
What cabinet and actual postcodes are you saying is wrong? Other than Hindhead I have no other clues. Also which layer are you referring too on the maps site
Posted by Blackmamba over 2 years ago
Hi A/S. I have found the error the two post codes GU102NZ and GU102NY have been locked to Headley Down EXchange Market 1 (RED) when they should be on Hindhead Cab12 Market 3 ( Green). Haslemere.
We found these two post codes were missing two years ago at a meeting in Dorking. The Headley Down Cab 6 is in the phase 5 to be switched to Market 3 green but the Cab is taking orders on market 1.
Posted by andrew (Favicon staff member) over 2 years ago
And which layer on the maps site are you talking about?

The Red and Green that you are linking with the exchanges means what?
Posted by andrew (Favicon staff member) over 2 years ago
BT Wholesale checker says GU10 2NY is connected to Headley Down cab 6 and has FTTC available and also to Hindhead Cabinet 12 that has FTTC available. Same price on both exchanges, but different speeds as cab 6 is closer than cab 12.
Posted by Blackmamba over 2 years ago
Hi a/s
The post code GU10 2NZ all customers are on Cab 12 Hindhead (ZEN line and BT line ) but when doing a speed test it is transfered to GU10 2NY
Posted by andrew (Favicon staff member) over 2 years ago
The speed test is plotted at GU10 2NY co-ordinates you need to zoom in more, which if you enable the satellite imagery layer you can. Then you will see the two locations split apart.

Posted by Blackmamba over 2 years ago
Hi A/s
Thanks for your assistance and information I will return if lost.
Regards. phil40phil.
Posted by Blackmamba over 2 years ago
Hi A/S
After checking the Data in Surrey I have found that the Surrey SFB and Thinkbroadband are 3 months out of date on data collection and average speeds plus the red hot spots.I am sure this will improve as the Cabs are open and the up to date data flows.
Posted by andrew (Favicon staff member) over 2 years ago
I'd like to know how we are out of date on the fibre layer, it is an estimated speed layer, so no concept of cabinets going live.

Show me where our data is three months out of date and I can explain why.


Posted by Blackmamba over 2 years ago
Hi A/s
Exchange Dunsfold is showing red spots when all three Cabs are open plus Forest Green EO Cab (Surrey) should be Green.
I do understand that the estermated data has not been used from the new Cab (FTTC) position so there are going to be errors.
I think you are dumping ALL the old speed data after three months not just the low speed data.
Posted by andrew (Favicon staff member) over 2 years ago
We do dump ALL speed test results after three months, there is no slow/fast algorithm involved.

Addressing the new cabinets is harder and needs people to do the leg work and find out what has changed, or funding for a dozen office staff to keep checking everything.
Posted by Blackmamba over 2 years ago
Hi A/s
Thanks for the above the situation in Surrey SCC 620 Cabs to provide I would think there is only aprox 30-40 to open finish date by 2015 march ( section phase 7 ). There has been mass advertising over the last month with post codes and that is why I picked up your late data insertion plus a flurry over the weekend.
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