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Recycled undersea fibre link bringing superfast fibre to Isles of Scilly
Thursday 24 July 2014 10:02:38 by Andrew Ferguson

While some parts of the UK are embracing fixed wireless services, the Isles of Scilly has moved onto the next stage by diverting a section of undersea fibre optic cable to improve the backhaul capability for the 2,200 residents (around 900 premises). The reason for the improved backhaul is that FTTC is due to be rolled out across the islands with the service going live towards the end of 2014. The fibre cable was one that has not been used since 2006 and was previously part of a 938km link between Porthcurno and Santander, Spain.

The islands are served by seven telephone cabinets with up to 8 Mbps ADSL available from the single telephone exchange on St Mary's, which is where 4 of the 7 telephone cabinets are. The other three cabinets are located on Tresco, St Agnes and St Martins. We could produce a projection of what speeds are available, but the islands are so remote that there is no Google Streetview to confirm the location of the cabinets.

"Superfast Broadband will create exciting opportunities for new and existing businesses. Its installation will also help our islands become more economically viable and provide benefits for future generations."

Amanda Martin, chairman of the Council of the Isles of Scilly

The roll-out is part of the larger Cornish project, which has fibre based broadband available to around 90% of premises and this should grow to 95% by the end of 2014, and also has the highest proportion of FTTP of any county in the UK.

Comments

Posted by StevenageNeil over 2 years ago
I wonder what the "cost per premise" of this "diversion" is going to be.
Posted by Blackmamba over 2 years ago
The cost will be very low with only 1000 customers which will all be diverted to the 7 Cabs over time.
Posted by cyberdoyle over 2 years ago
If there is a fibre going to the isles then it should be funded to be open access, and a decent altnet could provide a much superior service than fTTC, which is just a superfarce. A fiwi pie? Chucking money at old copper phone lines won't help anyone who is more than a km from the cabs, or do they all live close to the cabs? Like Andrew says, no streetmaps. Perhaps someone could get the info on line lengths from the monopoly? Looking at google earth its good enough to see that far more cabinets would be needed and fibre between the islands to make even poor old infinity work for everyone.
Posted by andrew (Favicon staff member) over 2 years ago
Fibre will be deployed to the cabinets on Tresco, St Agnes and St Martins.

How many cabinets do people think would be needed then?
Posted by Gadget over 2 years ago
St Marys is the largest island at 6.3sqKm (source was wiki), so very difficult to physically get more that a couple of Km from the exchange in any case, and with 4 cabs on the island not sure what CD is on about ...
Posted by StevenageNeil over 2 years ago
"The cost will be very low with only 1000 customers"......IF the cable currently has a termination the islands - Andrew's post does not state that.
Posted by andrew (Favicon staff member) over 2 years ago
To be Frank, not sure what the post by Blackmamba actually means at all.

Currently a radio link is the backhaul from the exchange, so FTTC coming they will also get ADSL2+ option. So lots will see better uploads and downloads by virtue of ADSL2+ arriving
Posted by Blackmamba over 2 years ago
I am glad to hear that ADSL2+ will be added to the FTTC access on the above so it will give customers a price option.
Posted by StevenageNeil over 2 years ago
Now that we have clarification - "This goes against the avalanche of news coverage that now has ITV journalists filming on beaches in the Isles of Scilly as fibre backhaul is brought ashore and almost daily appearances by one or other MP at a cabinet unveiling."
I will restate my previous enquiry - How much per premises is this operation costing? I am sure there are lots of people in London who are stuck on ADSL because of "commercial viability."
Posted by Blackmamba over 2 years ago
The cost is clawed back by how maney customers lease a port over time so it is advisable to get them connected ASAP to pay for( capital and interest with running costs )
Posted by StevenageNeil over 2 years ago
900 premises, no other "industry" except tourism, median age probably over 55, probable take up of fibre 50% at best.........
Seems to me that the money could have been better spent else where.
Posted by Gadget over 2 years ago
StevenageNeil - But isn't it also "rural" or are we now advocating campaigning for only "less wealthy" rural?
Posted by StevenageNeil over 2 years ago
Who mentioned "wealth"?
I know the Scilly Isles quite well. People go there to retire and "get away" from the pressures of modern life. (Harold and Mary Wilson for example). I seriously doubt that even 50% will take up fibre. I was just saying that the capital investment may/could have been better spent elsewhere.
Posted by Blackmamba over 2 years ago
Hi Neil. If you are interested in where the money is being invested go on Elgin type in your area and take a radius 1.5 miles from your home/ business and you will see the actions points from the ISP,s. (BT telecom).
Posted by StevenageNeil over 2 years ago
I don't think you understand my position. I have no interest in my area, (I have had FTTC for over two years now.) i am writing on behalf of the many, in thriving cities, would just love, and use effectively, FTTC.
Posted by StevenageNeil over 2 years ago
(It is my suspicion that it is local councilors and MP's that have pushed this through without any public consultation)
Posted by andygegg over 2 years ago
StevenageNeil - BBC local TV news gave a cost of £2000 per household.
Posted by StevenageNeil over 2 years ago
andygegg - thank you
Posted by StevenageNeil over 2 years ago
So, approximately £2M to service, at my guess, around 400 premises............
Posted by Blackmamba over 2 years ago
That makes the 7 Cab,s very expensive £285000 per unit even using recycled fibre one Cab only cost £15000 and that is installed there must have been large backhanders involved.
Posted by andrew (Favicon staff member) over 2 years ago
Urm no not cab cost but cost of ship and other work getting fibre backhaul in place.

Fttc rollout is not just cost of physical cabinet.
Posted by StevenageNeil over 2 years ago
Precisely! My point all along.
Posted by fastman over 2 years ago
stevenage is is park of cornwall bid - which has been running for x amount of years !!!!

Posted by fastman over 2 years ago
cyberdoyle It is part of cornwall deployment it will be open access as it wlla have a choice if circA 60 CPS FROM WHICH YOU CAN BUY AND fttc Service
Posted by fastman over 2 years ago
stevenage which is you particular issue in london you are referring to
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