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Fibre on Demand coverage expansion announced by Openreach
Tuesday 17 December 2013 18:33:16 by Andrew Ferguson

The Fibre on Demand product from Openreach is set to be available from another 82 exchange areas in the New Year. The Fibre on Demand product allows those whose street cabinet has a fibre twin (i.e. can get FTTC) to order a full fibre to the premise solution with a lot lower install cost that traditional fibre leased lines and lower monthly costs, but still costing substantially more than existing FTTC services.

Abingdon Aylesbury, Banbury, Bicester, Bishops Stortford, Blewbury, Blunsdon, Boreham, Bowes Park, Brackley, Braintree, Broomfield, Burghfield Common, Bushey Heath, Caversham, Chelmsford, Chorleywood, Chorlton, Clapton, Cockfield Green, Colindale, Crouch End, Deddington, Denton, Didcot, Didsbury, Earley, Edgware, Elstree, Epping, Finchley, Harefield, Harrow, Hartest, Hatch End, Hawkedon, Headington, Hendon, Henley On Thames, Highams Park, Highworth, Hungerford, Kenton Road, Kidlington, Kings Langley, Kingsbury, Macclesfield, Manchester East, Mill Hill, Moss Side, Muswell Hill Crouch End, New Southgate, Newbury, North Edgware, North Finchley, North Wembley, Northwood, Oxford, Pinner, Radlett, Reading Central, Reading South, Rickmansworth, Rowstock, Ruislip, Rusholme, Spencers Wood, Stamford Hill, Stanmore, Stansted, Stockport, Summertown, Tadley, Thatcham, Tilehurst, Tottenham, Uxbridge, Wallingford, Walthamstow, Wantage, Wendover, Woodley; Berkshire

The 82 new exchange areas for Q3 2013-2014 availability of FTTPoD

Another list of 161 exchanges is expected by the end of March 2014, which will bring the total along with previously announced exchanges to some 303 exchanges, and means that if firms and homeowners are willing to spend the money the option of full FTTP will be available to 4.7 million premises. It is not possible to say that 4.7m premises will be passed by a FTTP network, as the accepted definition of 'passed' is that it is only the last 20 to 100m of fibre that needs installing. The first FTTPoD install in each road, will require additional fibre splitters, a manifold and fibre tubing installing.

The phased roll-out of the Fibre on Demand product appears to be based around both the perceived economic feasibility for an area and the technical experience being available to install it. As such this means that it is not just a small dedicated team travelling around the country, but that local staff are trained in maintaining the network.

The expected installation costs start at around £700, rising to £1,500 but for those at greater distances the cost may reach £3,000 or more. A survey is carried out prior to people committing to pay the install fee and for those wondering how the distance element is calculated it is the radial distance from your fibre aggregation node, which is usually a larger pavement chamber located near the fibre street cabinet. The service carries a 3 year minimum contract term, and only one speed of service is currently available a 330 Mbps download, 30 Mbps upload product.

The install cost, long contract and the likely £60 to £150 monthly broadband service price will mean for the average home user the service is too expensive, but for those looking to work from home all the time, or for improving a business connection where guaranteed bandwidth is not needed the service offers good value for money. Also while the costs will be higher, those businesses who are only getting 15 to 25 Mbps from a FTTC service may find the boost in both downstream and upload speeds is distinctly worth the money. A further benefit to full FTTP solutions is that they are immune to radio interference too.


Posted by 21again over 3 years ago
I would be happy to see BTOR upgrade my exchange and all the others to 21CN BEFORE they start rolling out FoD to areas where FTTC is already available.
Posted by Gadget over 3 years ago
21CN (aka ADSL2+)is not provided by Openreach, its a BTWholesale product
Posted by Dushyant over 3 years ago
330Mbps down for £60 a month on a 36 month contract seems too expensive when Virgin media will have 150Mbps down for £31-35 without a phone line.

I work from home and prefer to have a 120Mbps virgin line for £31 a month and a Sky FTTC line for £15 a month (6 months free, £20 a month). This provides resilience as you really do need a connection if you work from home.

With all the cash back offers my connection only works out at £38 a month for both.

Obviously a great option for businesses though.
Posted by pcoventry76 over 3 years ago
this is great.. just need them to put that FTTC cab in amongst the rest first!
Posted by AndrueC over 3 years ago
Brackley's on the list. Unfortunately I just can't justify the cost. FTTC is already giving me more than I need.
Posted by JNeuhoff over 3 years ago
This whole FTTPoD doesn't make sense. It is supposed to run from the nearest so-called 'fibre aggregation node'. Why do the latter only exist in fibre cabinets? Isn't there something equivalent inside the exchange itself? If so, this kind of service could have been available for e.g. exchange-only lines at similar radial distance setup costs.
Posted by ahockings over 3 years ago
Well, with my current 1.7Mbps ADSL2+ I would certainly pay £60. My cab (not switched on yet) is 5Km away so I might not get FTTC anyway.
FTTH would require them to run it 4KM along a main road and then dig across a 5 acre field (since the phone lines are buried (not ducted in the field). Can see this happening and if it did it would probably cost me 10 grand or so. Brilliant!!
Posted by ahockings over 3 years ago
Posted by Apilar over 3 years ago
@Dushyant The VM product is subject to throttling and has poor upstream speed. The BT product is in a different league.
Posted by themanstan over 3 years ago

wasn´t Deddington a FTTP only exchange anyway?
Posted by snake007uk over 3 years ago
Damn still no Goodmayes :(

I would have order on the spot. The only thing i would want would be static IP and no limits.
Posted by adslmax over 3 years ago
@Apilar - I totally agree that virgin media upload is very poor indeed. That's why I rather to have FTTC 80/20 for £20 a month rather than expensive virgin media 120/11 for £28 a month.
Posted by adslmax over 3 years ago
Who need 330/30? Who care? As for 80/20 is fine for the next 10 years!
Posted by Keef1977 over 3 years ago
I dont know how accurate this is, but if we had a 330mb line... I think the speeds would be pretty crazy
Posted by Keef1977 over 3 years ago
Download 25Gb in 10 mins!!
Posted by Zarjaz over 3 years ago

Yep, Deddington is indeed already a fibre only exchange.

Mines on the list, and I'm ducted all the way already ............
So who will offer me what for this unremarkable mid terrace late 60's mid terrace ?
Posted by fastman over 3 years ago
JNeuhoff the agg node is not at the cabinet likley to be futher away from you that the cabinet. so a line is shown, at an Exchange, then to a cab then to a DP then to a premise (unless your EO)- so to order FOD your exchange has to be enabled for Fod (YES/NO) and your cab also has to be enabled for Fibre (YES /NO - to ensure consistentcy and equivalence
Posted by themanstan over 3 years ago
Surely that means if you want BB and you are connected to Deddington, you are connected by FTTP be default and there is no "extra charge"?
Posted by themanstan over 3 years ago
Looking more carefully, loads of Oxfordshire exchanges in this list...
Posted by Zarjaz over 3 years ago
@ themanstan. I'd say you were right on that. They've even blown fibre to premises where currently only voice is used.
Posted by ScubaGirl over 3 years ago
330mbps sounds great until you look at the upload speed. With the cost of installing FTTPoD IMHO you would be better off getting a second FTTC line at 80/20 installed at the present time if you need the speed. Of course those who live a long distance from a cabinet would be better on FTTCoD but the costs would be much higher still and BTO still are not rolling it out in rural areas.
Posted by themanstan over 3 years ago
Blewbury is rural, village in Oxfordshire.
Posted by ccxo over 3 years ago
@ themanstan, Blewbury was one of the race to Infinity winners, village is a mixture of FTTC/P coverage.
Posted by themanstan over 3 years ago
Which makes it perfect for establishing rural take up of FTTPoD.
Posted by pcoventry76 over 3 years ago
@Apilar it's been secretly got rid off. Or so I hear.
Posted by NetGuy over 3 years ago
" 82 new exchange areas " makes this sound like it is the second list of exchanges. If that's the case, any way to easily find the first (I searched the news archive for FTTPoD and it came up with only 2 articles, both 17/12/2013). Thanks.

Was slightly surprised to see Macclesfield and Moss Side on the list, given so many seem to be either leafy Home Counties, or at least within 25 miles of London...
Posted by andrew (Favicon staff member) over 3 years ago

The initial list of exchanges.
Posted by andrew (Favicon staff member) over 3 years ago
Should also say that if FTTPoD is available to order it will show up when you check the telephone number of an active WLR line or use the full address checker, i.e. house number, street and postcode
Posted by ValueforMoney over 3 years ago
The NAO found c£19k average potential costs allocated to enable FTTP FOD on every rural fibre path. This is included within the c£63k per path of which £47k is projected to be public subsidy.

If the subsidy for a cabinet(only) serving 200 users is of the £20k mark, it could pay for the works to deliver FTTP to the first 40/50 customers and orderable by the rest.

Posted by themanstan over 3 years ago
If that's the case, then an escrow account should be used to equally subsidise FTTP for all in the distribution area, rather than pay all for a select few. Cab numbers do not reflect potential number of users in a given area, PCP will, as both ADSL and FTTC users need to be considered.
Posted by ValueforMoney over 3 years ago
@themanstan The escrow account with BT's capital contribution added would be useful to all LA's.
The tree and branch nature of networks suggests all potential customers benefit while those connecting early benefit the most, this as you say is amplified in a move to FTTP, but that does not mean it should not happen.
Posted by themanstan over 3 years ago
Subsidy could be scaled so that all pay the same amount for connection, with a fixed period for take up. Any surplus being redeployed. Hmm...
Posted by ValueforMoney over 3 years ago
@themanstan indeed. The matter quickly comes to light as the subsidy demand for FTTC climbs above the £70-£120 premises passed range. It is currently >£240 for BDUK/LA contracts, which is a terrific amount in recessionary times but more suited to FTTP if we take a 20% take up.
The surplus just pushes fibre to as many DPs as possible so the connection costs can be reduced.
Posted by themanstan over 3 years ago
Far too sensible.... will never happen!
Posted by ValueforMoney over 3 years ago
@themanstan - no sign of the penny dropping and the lack of transparency is preventing change.
Posted by New_Londoner over 3 years ago
But the cost of FTTP is well over £1000 per premise, so how can you say £240 is "more suited to FTTP"?
Posted by ValueforMoney over 3 years ago
@new-londoner - The working assumption is that 1 in 5 take fttc. If those 1 in 5 (5x£240) take P you will have readied the network (fibre on manifolds on the final dp) for others to order when ready.
It means you should not need to pay for both in cab serving c200 customers (takeup 40) if the average subsidy is £47k.
Posted by WWWombat over 3 years ago
You aren't comparing apples with apples.

The places where FTTP costs only £1000 per premise are not the same places that demand *any* public subsidy.

You should expect that the FTTP cost in areas needing subsidy will be 2x - 5x this amount.

And the plan is that many more than 20% take superfast service. Analysys Mason predict >50% by 2018.
Posted by infunity over 3 years ago
Happy to see my exchange on the list but the cost is way too high.

I wish I could reduce the installation costs by splitting a portion of it with anyone else in my area who wants FTTP.

They'd probably get a lot more customers if they allowed or even helped communities organize this.

Also, I'm guessing 60/month is not for the full 330/30 product... but then I'm already paying that for 80/20 (Business FTTC) just for the static IP. :(
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