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More Broadband Funding in North Lincolnshire
Monday 07 October 2013 10:24:00 by Andrew Ferguson

The fluid nature of the BDUK roll-outs is today highlighted by the expansion on the project covering North and North East Lincolnshire. The extra money comes from Westminster and the ERDF fund, both of whom put money into the original contract signed in June 2013.

The local press indicates that the extra funding should allow the project to expand on the original 89% getting the option of connecting to a fibre based service to a figure of 92%, or an extra 5,000 premises.

The new funding is made is up of £500,000 from the BDUK (we presume from the contingency fund not allocated in August 2011), another £562,000 from the European Regional Development Fund (ERDF) and £150,000 from the North Lincolnshire Councils. There is also additional funding from BT, our original coverage suggested BT was putting in £1.51m, but a figure of £3.3m from BT is mentioned with this no rising to £4.2m.

Increasing coverage will be welcomed by those in the affected parts of Lincolnshire, but further BDUK money going to BT is going to once more increase the volume of complaints about predatory BT practices.

Comments

Posted by mikejp over 3 years ago
Yet again, a few questions arise:-

1a) How many 'private' initiatives will this tread on?

1b)How does this dovetail with the OMR and restrictions on further coverage outwith that declared?
Posted by mikejp over 3 years ago
PS I'm not sure it is necessarily fair, Andrew, to lump this into "predatory BT practices" (yes, I know, coming from me....!) since it is ostensibly extra 'external' funding. However, as the previous, it is going to be judged on what actually happens with the money.
Posted by andrew (Favicon staff member) over 3 years ago
Note: I was not saying it was predatory, just expect the volume of complaints to increase based on simple BT is getting more money.

On private initiatives, is that not what the OMR was meant to map, and if it is a 100% overlay then breaks state aid rules.
Posted by mikejp over 3 years ago
"On private initiatives, is that not what the OMR was meant to map, and if it is a 100% overlay then breaks state aid rules."

Er yes, but not "100% overlay" - any overlay I believe is wrong? We know from the Isle of Wight shenanigans that we can trust the system implicitly..............
Posted by andrew (Favicon staff member) over 3 years ago
Actually a small amount of overlay is allowed, otherwise a cabinet that say overlaid a Virgin area by 10% would be excluded.

Where the cut off is set I cannot say, and may vary according to funding sources for each area.
Posted by mikejp over 3 years ago
I'm not sure that is right since the OMR was supposed to be down to postcode level. Thus IF a POSTCODE has Virgin HSB it should be 'black' and 'exempt'. However, as we know from the 'homes passed' nonsense, the meaning of 'connected' premises in a postcode has vanished.



Posted by mikejp over 3 years ago
From a typical OMR documet:
"The European Commission (EC) law requires that local authorities only invest in areas where they can demonstrate:
 There is no current, or planned (i.e. within the next three years) deployment of Next Generation Access (NGA) broadband. These areas without current or planned NGA broadband are termed ‘NGA white’ areas."

I understand the detail was required at postcode level to distinguish 'NGA white' areas, but I am not sure how rigidly it was enforced.

However, definitely not "!00%"
Posted by mikejp over 3 years ago
NB "'black' and 'exempt'" should read "'not NGA White"
Posted by andrew (Favicon staff member) over 3 years ago
So are you clearer on what degree of overlay is acceptable?

A cabinet funded with public money may serve 20 postcodes, if 1 one these has 12 homes on a superfast network (e.g. Virgin Media) is it breaking state aid rules to enable cabinet?

From past reading no. Where the exact yes/no line lays is down to expensive lawyers.

Posted by herdwick over 3 years ago
There are "NGA black" allegedly superfast postcode areas connected to distant FTCC cabs that won't get superfast speeds.

How many non-BT initiatives engaged with the OMR ? B4RN appeared not to, looking at the maps.
Posted by mklinger over 3 years ago
One thing most people will not know about this upgrade is that if you are directly connected to an exchange and not to a cabinet,then you will not get superfast broadband as BT states they are not included in the contract.
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