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Oxfordshire signs BDUK contract with BT
Monday 05 August 2013 10:57:28 by Andrew Ferguson

The contract between Oxfordshire County Council and the BT has been signed and over the next two and a half years it should see a further 67,000 homes and businesses benefit from being connected to FTTC based service.

The project is worth some £25 million, with £4m from the BDUK, £10m from the council and £11m from BT. With the aim of the project to deliver broadband at speeds of over 24 Mbps to 90% of the premises in the county, extending the current commercial footprint which sits at around 60%.

The press release describes the remaining 10% as comprising of isolated rural pockets, which while missing out on the fastest speeds will see improvements to ensure a minimum speed of 2 Mbps, sufficient for email and government forms.

Comments

Posted by Somerset over 3 years ago
Where does this leave Cotwold Broadband? To fill 'isolated rural pockets'?
Posted by themanstan over 3 years ago
And Gigaclear with their Oxfordshire Rural fibre projects.
Posted by mdar5 over 3 years ago
Well I imagine that BT/BDUK funds will not be going to any place that has signed up for Gigaclear...as said place now has a "commercial solution" so is no longer elibible for public money.

So its just means fewer places in the county to be considered by BT/OCC/BDUK and so more money can now be spent on those fewer places.


Posted by herdwick over 3 years ago
Providing they engaged with the process and have those areas mapped as "Grey" for State Aid.

https://myconsultations.oxfordshire.gov.uk/gf2.ti/f/17922/46373.1/PDF/-/State%20Aid%20Consultation.pdf
Posted by berbles over 3 years ago
I am stunned: BT's "goal" for rural users (and anyone more than 5Km from the exchange) is 2MBit, simply nowhere near adequate for the average home, let alone business. 20Mbit/10Mbit is more reasonable.
So where does this leave the rural parts of the county, except for Appleton/Eaton, Fyfield, Frilford and bits of Kingston Bagpuize who have 50Mbit/50Mbit for £37 a month through Gigaclear? Nowhere. The money needs to go to FTTP rollouts everywhere by 2015, this would pave the way for 100Mbit FD & faster, and a better investment than flogging the 1950s copper links in the ground any further.
Posted by andrew (Favicon staff member) over 3 years ago
How many FTTP connections will £25 million buy?

That is the harsh reality, i.e. unless .gov wants to spend a lot more per property, FTTP is off the cards to do large scale roll-outs.
Posted by themanstan over 3 years ago
Based on B4RN cheaper DIY costs ~17000 properties so 50,000 go without Berbles... on a full commercial costs roll out maybe ~12,000 properties.
Posted by New_Londoner over 3 years ago
Fair point Stan, I've yet to see anyone that bangs on about "it should be FTTP" come up with a credible way to pay for it, especially as there is no evidence that us consumers will pay extra per month for something we don't really need.

The best option so far is to scrap all/most of the Common Agricultural Policy payments (several £billions per year) and use that. Even then it will take some time to build, faces some pretty difficult state aid barriers.
Posted by mdar5 over 3 years ago
@Berbles
You want FTTP: so either you can pay for it, or alternatively you can do it youself for free - DIY like B4RN.
The rest of us don't want to pay and have better things to do at weekends.

You will remember the previous Gov' wanted to impose a levy of only 50p on phone lines to pay for broadband upgrades. The result was an outcry of outrage......say's it all really, everyone wants everything but no one is prepared to pay even 50p/month extra.
Posted by fastman over 3 years ago
berbles the main distance os the distance from the cab -- islip were around 4 k to the exchnage and now metres away from the cab -- now majority of islip has access to >30 m/bps
Posted by berbles over 3 years ago
We're a Gigaclear rural FTTP client.
But my point was not that BT is sticking its finger in the dyke - we all know FTTP is the eventual future, copper has long run out of steam.
But rather that 2MBit as a goal has already been reached - we had 5.5Mbit 10 years ago in a rural village through our own community WIFi project, they are pocketing the money for getting where they've already got to!
Posted by berbles over 3 years ago
FTTC is the correct solution in densely-populated urban areas (for now), but is NOT the answer in rural and semi-rural areas: I have just been helping an irate semi-rural business client who was advised to move to FTTC and has found it is slower than their previous ADSL...

In these areas BDUK-funded FTTP installs are the way forward, and that's where the money should be going, not to BT for installs they've already done.
Posted by themanstan over 3 years ago
but what you promoteis not the answer... we've just explained you only get 12000 connections with fttp... that means you leave 50000 without... you yourself should know Oxfordshire it's the most rural of the southern counties... There are no "densely" populated areas, there are towns bigger than Oxford!
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