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BDUK trial reports did not consider farms to be businesses
Thursday 31 May 2012 08:15:11 by Andrew Ferguson

Harrogate Borough Council has rejected a report on the BDUK North Yorkshire pilot scheme, which was meant to be one of the showcase projects that would help other local authorities see how different broadband options would work.

The report critically failed to consider farms as businesses and as such will now have to be re-written. There are a myriad of reports and milestones that must be met as the BDUK projects progress, and even council chiefs are saying the rate of progress is 'frustrating'.

The North Yorkshire project, should in theory have had a head start, as it is based around an existing scheme NYNet which started in 2007.

Anyone who has ever been involved in government or local authority procurement will be well used to these sorts of delays, but the BDUK team and politicians should be starting to get concerned about delays like this, as while the final deadline is three years away, the amount of work across the UK as a whole will stretch companies resources to install superfast broadband.


Posted by cyberdoyle over 4 years ago
Had this problem in other areas too, the farmers are the lifeblood of this country and yet are totally ignored. We can get water, we can generate electric, but we can't manufacture internet access and wholesale prices are way out of our reach for leased lines. Satellites are too expensive to run on family farms where the kids get on them and use up the data transfer too quickly, 3g is pretty intermittent, and hills and trees spoil wifi.
Posted by themanstan over 4 years ago
The solution to your problems CD is to make BB a USO, just like water and electricity. The rules on customer costs for install will then be the same.
Posted by GMAN99 over 4 years ago
If they are the lifeblood how come they have to be so heavily subsidised? Don't we import more "everything" than what our own farms produce?

Anyway... BDUK, a shambles from start to finish
Posted by otester over 4 years ago
The population wanted artificial competition/low prices, this is the result, poor coverage of high speed services.
Posted by cyberdoyle over 4 years ago
GNAN99 the farmers aren't subsidised, your cheap food is. Governments want happy voters. There would be no green and pleasant land without farmers, you would all live in a wilderness of weeds. But don't lets go there. Life is too short.
Posted by creakycopperline over 4 years ago
And BT did it right eh? gman99 BT lackey fanboy.
Posted by Alchemyfire over 4 years ago
GMAN99, none of the farmers around me are subsidised. They work incredibly hard, long hours, 7 days a week. They're the lifeblood of a lot of communities.

I have to just say, I take offence to your attitude towards rural communities. It's very clear you have no understanding of the microcosm of how small communities operate, and are clearly not qualified to comment on them.
Posted by GMAN99 over 4 years ago
No offence intended at all! I don't have any attitude toward rural communities, I think you are basing a lot on that one comment?

I've just seen CD say similar things in the past where is sounds like if the farms went the entire country would just stop working. Farms are very important that is for sure, I'm just not sure its to the level that CD sometimes tries to get across that's all
Posted by fibrebunny over 4 years ago
Farm subsidies are an EU issue anyway. We have precious little say in such things. Can't say I'm aware of Government mandated food pricing in this country though.

Businesses desperately chasing customers would be the reason for low prices.
Posted by 21again over 4 years ago
>The population wanted artificial competition/low prices.
Was there a referendum as nobody asked me?
The large ISPs were the ones that offered cheap prices, not so long ago you would be paying thirty pounds a month for a 500kbps fixed speed connection.

>The solution to your problems CD is to make BB a USO

It will never happen,if the supply of BB was Nationalised as was the telephone service then eventually it would reach all areas regardless of cost, of course it would be heavily subsidised by the tax payer say for forty years, then it would be privatised.
Posted by themanstan over 4 years ago
Isn't agriculture one of the principle economies in N. Yorks?
You have to wonder what resources and personnel they have put in place for this, and where they've had consultancy that they've been adequately briefed and supervised.
Posted by Alchemyfire over 4 years ago
Sorry GGMAN99, you can see i'm a little bit passionate about this topic, especially communities that are constantly being sidelined and apart from making a very good business case, would benefit a lot more than area's that have 20mb+ already.
Posted by herdwick over 4 years ago
"none of the farmers around me are subsidised" - really ? do they all send back their Single Farm Payment ?
Posted by chilting over 4 years ago
Speaking as a commercial grower I get such poor speeds that I am having to use two bonded lines at over £60 per month just to get a usable connection of 2meg. Our West Chiltington [West Sussex] exchange, now located in Storrington, was sold by BT to a property developer.
Posted by desouzr over 4 years ago
I have been told that the winning bidder for the main BDUK project in North Yorkshire will be announced on 12th June.
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