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Herefordshire Council looking at committing £6m on broadband
Monday 23 January 2012 19:09:48 by Andrew Ferguson

Herefordshire Council's cabinet is cutting the discussions over allocating some £6 million from its own budget close to the mark, with a full council meeting to discuss the issue on 3rd February when the plan has to be submitted to the BDUK before the end of February 2012.

Herefordshire and Gloucestershire County Councils were amongst the first wave of pilots for BDUK funding and back in January 2011 but as yet we are still not aware of any actual awarding of contracts or trials under that scheme. The pilots seem to simply be areas that are slightly further ahead on the procurement process.

Herefordshire was allocated £6,350,000 by the BDUK in August 2011, but this will only be released on approval of the plan. The number of properties with poor or no broadband was estimated at 84,128, which is a massive 99.8% of the areas of the county eligible for State support. Gloucestershire has an allocation of £8,070,000 to cover 150,405 properties, which is 54.3% of the county.


Posted by opticalgirl over 5 years ago
I'm a little surprised by this - Borders Broadband (which is all of Herefordshire and Gloucestershire) went out to procurement over six months ago without knowing how much they had available to spend??? The pilot is phase 1, but they presumably talking to suppliers about the other phases as well.
Posted by PhilCoates over 5 years ago
Staffordshire has a similar amount of money - about £7.5 million.

Whats the deal? When BT win the tender (as it is likely to) does it have to match the BDUK money i.e. make a total pot of £15 million?

How far is this likely to go if there are 150k properties - £100 per property at 100% take up.

Frankly thats not enough to provide much but at least BT will be flashing some cash unlike other potential providers.
Posted by andrew (Favicon staff member) over 5 years ago
Bidder usually matches the BDUK pot, it is a requirement of the process. Hence why people complain it is keeping the small operators out of the game.

Though nothing stopping a winning bidder sub-tendering wireless ops to a smaller operator
Posted by PhilCoates over 5 years ago
Do the councils themselves have to match the BDUK funding - i.e. would the pot for Staffordshire be more like £21 million?
Posted by zyborg47 over 5 years ago
i would love to know where this money is coming from since this council (Herefordshire) have no money and have to keep borrowing. BT is going to put their fibre network around here in June, but I expect it be more to the end of the year and All pay broadband have their wireless network on churches, which will help people get broadband. not sure what this BDUK funding is going to do
Posted by andrew (Favicon staff member) over 5 years ago
The 60% of UK from Openreach is known to the councils, so they don't double spend in those areas. Some like Surrey even have useful maps that you can read, unlike the Hertfordshire one where the hashing practically redacts the map.

AllPay at present appear concentrated around Hereford. Can they scale to serve the whole county? Also not all properties will have reception from church steeples.
Posted by andrew (Favicon staff member) over 5 years ago
@philcoates £7.4 BDUK, then roughly same from council, and hopefully roughly same from bidder. Giving £21m for 178,000 properties (£117 each).

Posted by zyborg47 over 5 years ago
i am looking at Allpay myself, but it depends on price, I know they do a 2megabit for £15, but I would whant at least 8 for £20, Otherwise i may as well stay as I am. Be nice if All pay can go outside Herefordshire. i expect we will get fibre where I am at some point, but TBH, I don't think I want to go back onto a BT network.
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