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Fujitsu put live first customers using Openreach duct and pole sharing
Wednesday 16 November 2011 10:25:18 by John Hunt

Strong progress has been made in a trial of duct and pole sharing with Fujitsu, Openreach's furthest advanced trial participant. Last week saw the company connect up its first end users using fibre-to-the-premises (FTTP) technology which can deliver connection speeds of up to 1Gbps. This limited trial is taking place in Greasby, the Wirral for 6 months and will offer speeds of up to 100Mbps through two service providers- Virgin Media and TalkTalk.

The successful installation and positive feedback from both Fujitsu and other triallists is pushing Openreach ahead to launch the physical infrastructure access (PIA) products later this month. Pricing will be as per the announcement in October which saw various pricing fall from the original controversial draft pricing that caused some backlash from potential customers.

"Fujitsu UK have made strong progress to date using Openreach's poles and ducts and so we welcome the imminent commercial launch of their products. I'm delighted to announce that the first of our triallists are now live on our trial network, and we're proud to be the first Communications Provider in the UK to offer service through this route to market. Whilst there are still some points of detail we're working through ahead of commercial launch, we've been reassured by Openreach's collaborative approach towards pricing and product development, which gives us the confidence to move forward."

Andy Stevenson, (CEO) Fujitsu Telecommunications Europe Limited

Fujitsu had announced that they planned to deliver fibre-to-the-home (FTTH) to over 5 million rural homes and businesses back in April, through a collaboration with Virgin Media and TalkTalk. The trial here is the first steps towards this open wholesale network, however the ambitious target would rely on funding from BDUK being used to help them meet the financial case for deploying in areas, and there is likely to be strong competition to get access to these funds.


Posted by themanstan over 5 years ago
Good progress, has there been any word on wholesale pricing from Fujitsu?
Posted by andrew (Favicon staff member) over 5 years ago
Nothing that I could spot, it may not be publically available, ie. under NDA at this time.
Posted by GMAN99 over 5 years ago
Excellent this is very good news. Its a worry to see reliance on BDUK funding though, hopefully they'll just drive on without it
Posted by andrew (Favicon staff member) over 5 years ago
In my news item, which I was too slow writing, I did suggest that hopefully Fujitsu will roll-out in some areas where it can make the case for itself to be the investor, i.e. no BDUK funding.

This being needed to ensure that Councils can visit and see/feel the real network, rather than being the first guinea pig.

Swindon and Bournemouth are areas that showed promise and councils may go the BT route as it seems the least risky.
Posted by creakycopperline over 5 years ago
gman99, another dig from our resident BT fanboy.
if fujitsu had billions to waste like BT, i'm sure that would probably be doing the same, only not going a snails pace, and building a future proof network, insread of throwing a dart at a map to decide where they install.
Posted by GMAN99 over 5 years ago
Its not a dig? Its great news as I said. I'm saying that I hope the lack of all of the BDUK pot (which is what they wanted) wont stop them rolling it out, how is that bad? It is in everyones interest that they do.

Fuji are a big boys they have enough money to invest in this themselves
Posted by themanstan over 5 years ago
Fujitsu is a huge company, twice the size of BT, both physically and revenue wise... they do have billions to waste!
Posted by New_Londoner over 5 years ago
This is the same company that was "sacked by the NHS" right?

It may be big but....
Posted by andrew (Favicon staff member) over 5 years ago different parts of a large firm will behave differently.

Fujitsu Telecoms run a factor in Birmingham, so potentially a BDUK win for them could retain/create UK manufacturing jobs. In addition to roll-out work.
Posted by Bob_s2 over 5 years ago
Fujitsu Telecoms is not a big company and in any case as far as I know Fujitsu are not running this trial. THe trial is being run by the Open Network Consortium of which Fujitsu is a member.
Posted by andrew (Favicon staff member) over 5 years ago
Who are the other members then?

"The Fujitsu open access wholesale network will be underpinned by Cisco’s world leading technology. Virgin Media and TalkTalk intend to access wholesale products via this network in order to retail next generation services to customers in remote parts of the UK. The network will also be open to other service providers on wholesale terms."
Posted by GMAN99 over 5 years ago
Yep that's how I see it. Cisco supply the tin to the customer (Fujitsu) who re-sell to their customer VM & TT

A consortium of one
Posted by New_Londoner over 5 years ago
Totally agree GMan. Shame the other "consortium" members don't practice what they preach and open up their own networks, would be great to see what Virgin's PIA offer looked like!

Out of interest, how many snails pass 1m homes every three months?
Posted by Somerset over 5 years ago
Maybe VM don't want to do PIA because they don't have exchanges like BT and would effectively be offering long distance access.
Posted by Bob_s2 over 5 years ago
Virgin does not have PIA. The PIA is used by the Open Network Consortium. It is called that because it is OPEN any other Teleco or ISP can use it
Posted by New_Londoner over 5 years ago
Rather like OPENReach when you think about it!

Virgin could offer PIA, it does have ducts after all - odd it doesn't when it wants to benefit from using the Openreach equivalents through the "Open Network Consortium" (AKA Fujitsu).
Posted by themanstan over 5 years ago
@Bob_s2... very weak argument...

Fujistu Telecoms Europe... a "small" subsidiary.... so where is the £1-1.2B that they propose to fund themselves come from?
Fujitsu Global.... just like Openreach gets it's money from BT Group for it's NGA program...

Fujitsu is BIG diversified company...
Posted by Dave_Snelson over 5 years ago
...Meanwhile, just over the border in Wales, a little company called AB Internet has delivered 4Mb BB to homes and 5Mb to 100Mb symmetrical BB to businesses without the need for BDUK money or council money. The villages of Craigfechan Ysceifiog and Treuddyn along with 14 businesses are benefitting from quality broadband all delivered within 6 months by just 10 staff. Most of Flintshire and Denbighshire are now in coverage. Maybe some of the big-hitters and BDUK members would like to see how it is done on next to no money.
Posted by themanstan over 5 years ago
And a good job AB are doing too. However, there are some rural BB advocates who will say that what has been done provides next to nothing as it's not future proof. Which is a load of tosh, as going from nothing to something is infinitely better than waiting for enough cash to be available to do FTTH.
Posted by aquinn1987 over 5 years ago
Where can you order this?
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