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More piracy letter writing
Wednesday 09 November 2011 15:24:31 by Andrew Ferguson

Another three major broadband providers have now received letters from the Motion Picture Association asking the providers to block access to Newzbin2. That this has happened is of no great surprise as this had been flagged as the most likely action after the recent court judgments against BT requiring them to block access to Newzbin.

The BBC News article indicates that Sky and Virgin Media are going to insist on a court order before implementing any blocking, and the third TalkTalk is considering its response. While in all likelihood a court order will be granted, the open nature of this means that providers cannot be accused of blocking by the backdoor. Back room agreements to block sites is something that many people are worrying may actually happen, and then those with the power and influence can control what people see, hear and read via the internet.

Alas while the UK is looking to move against internet piracy, the Treasury has closed a VAT loop-hole that while leveling the field for UK based retailers, may simply result in e-commerce sites delivering from another location outside the EU, or the prices of those goods affected will rise. The price of CD, DVD and Blu-Ray content has been falling, with films particularly only holding their launch price for a short time, before being available for £5 to £10, this low price point along with the rise of Digital Copy versions was a way to help reduce piracy.

The content providers themselves need to look very closely at their pricing policies too, and the restrictions they place in terms of what content is available. To have digital content costing more than a physical copy that someone can format shift at home seems like madness, also at this time there is no legal online source of movies that we are aware of that exceeds meets or exceeds the quality of Blu-Ray. Most HD movies you can rent or buy are HD in the sense they are better quality than the standard material, but watching side by side with the Blu-Ray you often can think you are watching an upscaled DVD playing. The record labels and music industry str not the sole culprit, sometimes the percentage cut taken by app/media stores is behind these price anomalies.


Posted by fibrebunny over 5 years ago
Given the blocking is ineffective, it will be interesting to see how many are actually deterred. As newzbin are claiming to be unaffected according to the BBC article. There are plenty of alternative sites at this time, so some may just switch.
Posted by GMAN99 over 5 years ago
No need to switch, its not stopped their current customer base if you look on their site.
Posted by Bob_s2 over 5 years ago
You can end up paying more to download a lower quality DVD without the media etc of the physical item which is just crazy.
Posted by Firefalcon over 5 years ago
Media companies don't care about people paying more for digital copies than physical, they get more money. These are industries who don't care about the consumer, they just want the cash. Trying to censor the internet and probably having a hand in raising the prices of media? they want to give people a reason to pirate dont they?
Posted by djfunkdup over 5 years ago
Again this does make me LOL.. why these fat greedy industry piggies can get away with this beats me..NOT all material you get on sites like Newzbin is copyright protected or if uploaded breaks any
, Industrial.Strength.Records.Drop 150 days
Wait, please…
Resource Type: Sound Samples
(350.2MB) alt.binaries.sounds.samples

Posted by djfunkdup over 5 years ago
cont:why should anyone have the right to tell me not to access a site to download/then if i wish upload sound samples..? the creator of these samples put them on sites like newzbin so that people had access to them for free...ok i know and so do most other people reading this that these blocks are useless and pointless and they will not stop anyone using newzbin if they want access to it..but these chaps are getting far too big for their boots..
Posted by djfunkdup over 5 years ago
Ok there is a point to be made that artists should get paid for the work they do...i agree with that 100%.and i also agree that a lot of this material is available on sites like Newzbin ect..that is a problem for the music/film industries to solve.shutting down sites just because it contains SOME material that is protected by copyright,but also contains a load of legit stuff..its not on..this will once again backfire in their face like a wet fart..:)
Posted by fibrebunny over 5 years ago
It is not that people need to change, but that some might still do so anyway. A quick glance at the comments on their site shows that it wouldn't take much to confuse many. On the other hand there might be an invasion of noobs too.
Posted by andrew (Favicon staff member) over 5 years ago
Some materal...vast majority when I've looked at the pre-member list is very much a case of pirated.

NOTE: You don't upload to newzbin but an alt.binaries newsgroup somewhere else. Newsgroups are not websites usually, they pre-date the web browser
Posted by pinshot over 5 years ago
Every time i hear of a website being shut down in this manner i will seed 10GB.
Posted by PhilCoates over 5 years ago
'Every time i hear of a website being shut down in this manner i will seed 10GB..'

WOW, what a rebel you are!! I'm sure your efforts will undermine the media industry singlehandedly.


Posted by Firefalcon over 5 years ago
Coming from the guy whos all for the censorship eh Phil? Irony much?
Posted by otester over 5 years ago
Another biased article.

Posted by andrew (Favicon staff member) over 5 years ago
@otester biased in what way?

Mentions the blocking letters, mentions also some of the reasoning why people may infringe copyright.

Posted by PhilCoates over 5 years ago
'Coming from the guy whos all for the censorship eh Phil? Irony much? '

I thought the sarcastic nature of my post was self-evident.

Where have I said I am in favour of censorship?

I am in favour of the Law. We are all quick to hide behind it when it suits us........when it doesn't...well see this and a gazillion other threads on the subject.

Change the context of this report to 'Major Corporation forced to stop allowing racist/sexist/anti-religious (i.e. illegal) activity on its premises' and everyone will be right behind it.
Posted by Guest_Again over 5 years ago
Am 100% legal here, so, no fear here.
Posted by PhilCoates over 5 years ago
'@otester biased in what way?'

Presumably because it points out that there is likely to be a legal requirement for other ISPs to block access to NZB2 and that makes him unhappy?
Posted by Firefalcon over 5 years ago
I bet you could find a ton of that material on the net Phil, whos censoring that? No one, but wait the people who are actively funding fun holidays and trips for politicians and are up to endlessly sleasey stuff are the ones getting their way. This is just the start of a road to china, before long it wont just be "piracy" material. You say you are against censorship yet you haven't expressed that at all quite the contrary
Posted by otester over 5 years ago

You use the industry prescribed term "piracy", correct term is "unauthorized file-sharing" or "illegal file-sharing".

You also speak as if "piracy" is a bad thing...

"this low price point along with the rise of Digital Copy versions was a way to help reduce piracy."
Posted by drteeth over 5 years ago
@ Phil

"I am in favour of the law". So you were in favour of prosecuting black cab drivers when they did not carry a bale of hay for their horse? Repealed in 1975 IIRC, but around long enough...many laws are stupid, illogical, ill-founded and of suspect provenance.
Posted by Hagalaz over 5 years ago
Just to clarify, "black cab drivers" refers to the colour of the vehicle, not the driver.
Posted by fox-uk over 5 years ago
Is this some 'cunning plan' by stock brokers to sell shares in server farms and seedbox companies with anonymity gizmos?

I still believe that if the 'w' had been working on the typewriter bankers would have been called something different.....
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