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FTTH Council Europe reveal 3.9m FTTH subscribers in Europe
Wednesday 09 February 2011 15:34:20 by John Hunt

At the Fibre to the Home (FTTH) Conference today in Milan, the FTTH Council Europe have announced that there are now nearly 3.9 million FTTH subscribers in Europe, an 18% increase in just six months. Including Russia in the figures increases this to 8.1 million (adding 895,000 subscribers in six months). The top 5 countries remain unchanged in their order with Lithuania still out in front, followed by Sweden, Norway, Slovenia and Slovakia.

Turkey is the biggest mover in the rankings, joining in the second half of 2010. They have gained over 200,000 subscriptions during the first year, and aim to reach 1 million homes by the end of 2011.

"Fibre to the home is becoming a truly international phenomenon. In the second half of 2010 Turkey became the 18th country to join the FTTH European Ranking. Emerging markets are very dynamic and often enter the Ranking in high positions, above the more mature markets of Northern and Western Europe. It is becoming increasingly obvious that major economies like Germany, Spain and the UK need to speed up or risk getting left behind."

Chris Holden, (President) FTTH Council Europe.
Household Penetration of Fibre to the Home (green) and Fibre to the Building (red)
Household Penetration of Fibre to the Home (green) and Fibre to the Building (red)
Source: FTTH Council Europe

It will take some time for the likes of the UK to make it into the rankings, but hopefully with progression of FTTH deployments by Openreach, we should start to see homes becoming connected this year.


Posted by cyberdoyle over 6 years ago
The future is fibre, and openreach are concentrating on cabinets. What hope have we of ever catching up?
Posted by JohnUK over 6 years ago
Why catch up?
1999/2000 we were utilising what we had alot better and more efficiently than we do now.

Sure FTTC now is nice, but it'll take Virgin Media doing 200/400mbit for any pressure on BT to appear.

Also in today's economic climate I'd rather a rollout be done where it's viable and doesn't leave the majority subsidising the rural (where they CHOOSE to live) minority, independent rural setups like Rutland work well and privatising urban developments are coming which could bring cities gbit speeds.
Posted by krazykizza over 6 years ago
When your country has been living in the dark ages for most of the 20th century, its good to create an initial network that uses advances in technology from western europe and america. What exactly has Turkey contributed to the development of the technology?
Posted by krazykizza over 6 years ago
@ JohnUK that is a terrible thing to say. People have their jobs there
Posted by Dixinormous over 6 years ago
Perhaps if people were to stop whinging about the digital divide constantly we'd be able to start catching up, in dense urban areas, with our peers.

The future is fibre, it starts in the city, not the farmyard. As it is it starts nowhere as Ofcom have totally hosed the business case with their obsession with driving prices through the floor.
Posted by herdwick over 6 years ago
Did they FTTH also "reveal" how many homes are passed John ? I'm told that France Telecom has ~5% takeup. In Milan where the FTTH are meeting it is ~20% of homes passed by Fastweb. I think these figures are an important part of the debate.
Posted by Dixinormous over 6 years ago
I meant to say that fibre spreads but it needs to seed where it will make money rather than having urban areas subject to market forces paying out of taxation for fibre to rural areas.

As far as Openreach go, laughable, even if they were to get 100% uptake of the homes they have planned at the moment it wouldn't get us on that list.

It's a struggle to make money out of UK internet services when many people complain at paying much more than 50p / Mbps / month.
Posted by m0aur over 6 years ago
I does not matter if it is Broadband, or cancer survival rates, the UK are at the bottom of every table.
Posted by otester over 6 years ago
People in the UK just feel they are entitled to stuff without having to pay for it, they think when the government does it, it is free.

With this level of stupidity, I don't expect anything will have vastly improved by 2020, especially if BT/VM haven't paid off their debts.
Posted by Foggy_UK over 6 years ago
@JohnUK. "where they CHOOSE to live" Sorry ? I live where I live because it's cheaper than anywhere else and moving is not a option I can afford. There are always pros and cons to any location. I have to put up with being un-viable to the telecommunication and gas industries alike, but it isn't by CHOICE.
Posted by otester over 6 years ago

Like it or not, you are responsible for your current state in life.
Posted by herdwick over 6 years ago
@Foggy_UK massive contradiction

" I live where I live because it's cheaper than anywhere else "

sounds like a choice to me
Posted by donkey_hellfire over 6 years ago
It depends if you consider broadband to be an essential service to live a modern 21st century life. If the same attitude had been taken to the electricity or water network as some of the far right wingers take on this forum we would still be connecting houses to the national grid today! I agree one should be expected to pay a higher price for FTTH but that price should be the same regardless of where you live in mainland UK. The UK economy would benefit from national availability of FTTH and that benfits everyone. As the current government is so fond of repeating we are all in it together.
Posted by AndrueC over 6 years ago
@donkey_hellfire:So what essential service are you currently unable to use because you don't have FTTH?

FTTH is available right now in the UK to any community that wants it. Most will have to pay a premium to get it but if it's an essential service they will pay.

Or perhaps you're wrong. Almost no-one in the UK apart from members of special interest sites such as this one think it's essential.

Sad, perhaps, but true as far as I can tell.
Posted by welshwarrior over 6 years ago

If you read what donkey_hellfire actually said, there was no mention of FTTH as being an essential service - he actually says: "if you consider broadband to be an essential service"
Posted by herdwick over 6 years ago
Average European takeup of fibre 17.5% of properties passed. (PDF download of FTTH council presentation).

Fibre to the building (flats) dominates.
Posted by Dave2150 over 6 years ago
What pathetic statistics compared to the majority of european countries.
Posted by jtthedevil over 6 years ago
@JohnUK, otester and Herdwick.

So what you're saying is BT should stop the building and improvement of the network everywhere?
I assume that's what you mean. If YOU want faster broadband, why should BT upgrade your cabinet. Surely you could just move closer to the exchange...
Posted by herdwick over 6 years ago
This isn't about cabinets. It is about FTTH.
Posted by chrysalis over 6 years ago
apparently we not light years behind?
Posted by New_Londoner over 6 years ago
Like many reprts, this seems to concerntrate on the media (fibre) at the expense of the customer experience. Do I care how broadband is delivered or do I care about whether it meets my needs?

Rather than just taking it for granted that if its FTTH it must be better, how about looking at the throughput that is delivered to each individual dwelling or office. 100Mb sounds nice but if it is delivered to an apartment block and shared by 20 families then that's 5Mb each, so less than the current UK average.
Posted by New_Londoner over 6 years ago
Worth asking about the membership of the FTTH Council Europe - from a quick check I can see a lot of kit vendors listed. That may explain the presumtion that more FTTH is a good thing.
Posted by herdwick over 6 years ago
The FTTH Council exists to promote FTTH. These days if you read anything then somebody paid for it to be there, one way or another.
Posted by otester over 6 years ago

Because otherwise you will use another provider, oh but you can't do that as Ofcom and the VOA tax have taken competition out of the wholesale market leaving us with a semi-duo-poly where BT has full coverage and VM has 50%.

What am saying is we should scrap VOA and strip Ofcom to the bone.
Posted by New_Londoner over 6 years ago
To be fair, despite it repeatedly coming up here, the apparent advantage enjoyed by Virgin, BT, KCom etc due to the "VOA tax" has been tested in court and shown to be a myth. All the suppliers pay tax (rates) on their networks and the courts concluded that none of the four methods used to calculate the amount owed give an unfair outcome.

I can't recall the exact wording but a quick check on google should give you the detailed verdict from the most recent court of appeal case.
Posted by New_Londoner over 6 years ago
Despite that, it is often used by various people to excuse lack of investment by companies. Perhaps the business cases doesn't always stack up?

Remember both the UK courts and the EU investigated this and both rejected the arguments put forward, so this has been looked at pretty comprehensively by a wide range of people.
Posted by mrnelster over 6 years ago
Nobody expects people to do something for nothing. But there is always limit. Do we actually believe that the Market as a whole delivers what is proclaims to do?

Does the fact that most people's connections fall short of what they expect, reflect what they pay? Or does what they are willing to pay reflect what the Market as a whole manage to deliver?

Posted by mrnelster over 6 years ago

I pay 30 quid for a service that struggles to deliver 1.5 Mbps.
Others near me will pay the same and receive 16 Mbps.
I fully understand that is how it works, but I live in an urban area.

I would hazard a guess that I am subsidising them, not the other way round?

Its easy to consistently defend the business case if you remove all other considerations.
Posted by andrew (Favicon staff member) over 6 years ago
Subsidising who? The ISP pays the same regardless of your connection speed.

Where it counts is the GB transferred per month.
Posted by racerrich over 6 years ago
I think we tend to forget that the whole "Internet" and it's associated technologies is still relatively new and changing rapidly at great expense.
I think as a method of communication it can be likened to the introduction of the Railways and the huge changes and benefits that brought to our society.
Don't forget that if you use a train of any kind you are benefitting from other people's taxes.
This is for the benefit of society, why should the Internet etc be any different?
By the way, I am far from left wing in my beliefs, before I am accused of being a communist or similar.
Posted by ruraldweller over 6 years ago
JohnUK. Let's see how far your fibre will go when you run out of food because we rural dwellers move to the city!
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