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BT Retail offer free fibre upgrade to BT bundle customers
Friday 17 September 2010 17:57:13 by John Hunt

BT have released an exciting new offer today which should help people switch over to next-generation broadband for no extra cost. BT customers who take a bundle of broadband and calls will be able to upgrade to their fibre-to-the-cabinet (FTTC) services known as BT Infinity for no extra monthly charge when it becomes available in their area. The lowest price option, More Broadband & Calls comes in at just £7.49 a month for the first 3 months and is £17.99 a month there after but there is an activation fee of £25 for this product.

BT's Infinity broadband offers faster broadband to areas which have had new cabinets installed in the street with maximum download speeds of around 40Mbps. BT aren't the only company selling this faster broadband, various other ISPs such as AAISP, IDnet, Timico, and Eclipse all have competing products.

"Fibre is the future of broadband and BT is raising the speed and standard for customers nationwide. BT Infinity is head and shoulders above other services when it comes to value. We are the only company offering you an upgrade to fibre for no extra monthly cost and the only company to offer free line installation across all new bundles."

John Petter, (Managing Director) BT Consumer division

Also announced today, BT will be offering free line connection to those who take a phone and broadband or a phone, broadband and TV bundle offering savings over other providers. For more details on BT Infinity fibre broadband products click here.

Comments

Posted by awoodland over 6 years ago
Cue complaint from usual suspects
Posted by GMAN99 over 6 years ago
^ :D

Cut from any other BT bashing topic, paste here:->
Posted by GMAN99 over 6 years ago
So... maybe its because its late Friday after a hard week but what exactly are they offering, its a free upgrade but you have to pay £25? Or is the £25 what you would usually pay and they are waiving it? The free line connection is good
Posted by otester over 6 years ago
^

Probably the £125 they usually charge to connect you.

£25 is just for the fibre bit IIRC.

40/10 sounds nice, easily run a 64 player server off that, quite expensive for the unlimited version though.
Posted by CARPETBURN over 6 years ago
Good way for them to tie you into another 18 months on your phone line i suppose.
Posted by otester over 6 years ago
^

Not forgetting the rolling contracts...
Posted by GMAN99 over 6 years ago
I wouldn't call it expensive really, it not unlimited as we know but.. £25 a month for 40/10... I think its a good price.
Posted by CARPETBURN over 6 years ago
It also says... "We are the only company offering you an upgrade to fibre for no extra monthly cost"

Im a BT customer for my phone, so if there is no extra charge when i take this bundle why do i have to pay £7.49 for 3 months and then £17.99 there after on top of my line rental? That sounds like "Extra" to me.
Posted by russianmonkey over 6 years ago
Carpetburn - When they say "upgrade to fibre" they mean from standard broadband.
Posted by CARPETBURN over 6 years ago
But i dont use their "standard" broadband, i guess its just them being vague again.
Posted by otester over 6 years ago
@GMAN99

I mean actually unlimited "as we know".

~£80-90 depending on provider.
Posted by russianmonkey over 6 years ago
Sorry, but from the story "BT customers who take a bundle of broadband and calls"

Yeah, that's vague.
Posted by m0aur over 6 years ago
It is bad enough BT switching from 12 to 18 month minimum contracts, but for areas like mine, this offer would tie me in for years before fibre arrives. It is a bit cheeky after two recent big cash grabs of in advance billing, and using the threat of a rental increase to get users to cough a years rental up front. And on top of every other increase they can think of recently. I will stick with my no minimum contract Post Office line rental.
Posted by CARPETBURN over 6 years ago
^^^ So its not for non-BT customers or new signups? And if it is it then says...... "no extra monthly charge" so if i took this package, i should pay the same as i pay now shouldnt i? Any extra would be an increase, any less a decrease.

I think what they meant to say is we will give you FTTC and phone service for the same price as what we would normally charge you for a ADSL and phone bundle, as per here...
http://www.productsandservices.bt.com/consumerProducts/displayCategory.do?categoryId=CON-TOTAL-BB-R1#tab4
So nope not clear really
Posted by CARPETBURN over 6 years ago
AH m0aur not just me that spotted snags straight away then.
Posted by russianmonkey over 6 years ago
Fair point but the fact they say "Free Connection" would say to me that it includes people who want to join BT or who would now consider it with the faster speed.

And BT do still do 12 month contracts... they just don't really speak about them.
Posted by CARPETBURN over 6 years ago
Basically what they are doing is giving people that take a bundle FTTC for no addtional cost WHEN COMPARED to what you would pay for an ADSL bundle from them........ That though is not what they have said really is it?
Posted by m0aur over 6 years ago
I jumped the BT ship after becoming fed up with sly price increases. It started with the ripoff non direct debit charges. Then there was the call connection fee which seemed to increase with each bill. Then there was scrapping per-second billing, rounding up a call cost to the nearest penny instead of a tenth of a penny. Add all those to a premium or mobile call of a few seconds and it costs an arm and a leg.
Posted by m0aur over 6 years ago
I am happy with the Post Office. I get the same 8Mb broadband, but genuinely unlimited. Line rental, free 01/02/03 calls evenings (6 till 6, not 7 till 7) and weekends, free calls to mobiles AND 40 countries at weekends, FREEFONE calls to superb UK customer service, no penalty if I wish to pay at the Post Office, no minimum phone contract, and at £24.99 per month is cheaper that BT Option 3 Broadband alone. Why would I want years of tie-in, when what I have is unbeatable.
Posted by Legolash2o over 6 years ago
How much do you guys reckon it would cost me to have an engineer put a fibre optic cable to my house?
Posted by Legolash2o over 6 years ago
roughly 2.5miles from the exchange and 600metres from my green cab. :P
Posted by m0aur over 6 years ago
How much do you guys reckon it would cost me to have an engineer put a fibre optic cable to my house?

It depends who you are allowing to quote!!
Posted by Legolash2o over 6 years ago
anyone can quote :D Just want a rough idea.
Posted by Somerset over 6 years ago
Where is this cable going to and what's it for?
Posted by Legolash2o over 6 years ago
My home from the exchange (Bridlington) and broadband...
Posted by m0aur over 6 years ago
I wonder if this "Exciting new offer" from BT can be linked to the fact they were one of the biggest fallers on the FTSE yesterday.
Posted by Somerset over 6 years ago
Do you want a direct connection to an internet data centre in London or would you prefer to wait for FTTC/P in Bridlington?
Posted by Legolash2o over 6 years ago
i want it to connect to japan :D Nah kidding, i thought they would be able to do it since my exchange is 21CN.

FTTC/P in Bridlington won't be available for years, we have not even got a date and prob won't get one!! BT are so slow :(
Posted by awoodland over 6 years ago
legolash2o: You can get quotes here http://clueless.aaisp.net.uk/etherquote.cgi
Posted by AndrueC over 6 years ago
It sounds like a good offer that will suit most people. Despite what some like to claim BT's service is perfectly adequate for the majority of people. If this increases take up of FTTC then that's a good thing. It will encourage the industry and demonstrate that the concept of NGA is worth pursuing.
Posted by EnglishRob over 6 years ago
Legolash2o you could try talking to Rutland Telecom, I spoke to them a few months back about taking over some fibre and it was still very expensive (IIRC in the £40 to £50k region) so sadly it wasn't really economically viable unless a few businesses helped fund it (the cabinet only served about 50 houses).

Might be different for your cabinet though, maybe if it serves hundreds of houses then it might be worth them doing it. Can't hurt to give them a call to enquire.
Posted by Legolash2o over 6 years ago
awoodland thanks for the link, it says for 100Mb that its £4100 but will cost £3000 a month.

50Mb is £3500 and £1500 a month subscription.

Install cost is good but subscription = bad, although they are for business users.
Posted by Somerset over 6 years ago
Maybe Bridlington will be in the next batch announced...
Posted by Legolash2o over 6 years ago
doubt it... :P

Do you have FTTC yet? If so, what's it like? :D
Posted by CaptainHulaHoop over 6 years ago
next time people complain complain about their isp using traffic shaping/contention/usage limits etc. i might direct them to that site to show them the sort of money data actually costs
Posted by MarkHampshire over 6 years ago
Whoever writes that marketing nonsense has a big imagination. "Fibre is the future of broadband [well done, BT, you woke up] and BT is raising the speed [not difficult starting from such a low base] and standard for customers nationwide [really, is everyone getting FTTC then?]... We are the only company offering you an upgrade to fibre for no extra monthly cost [ever so good of you to migrate people off the legacy rubbish] and the only company to offer free line installation across all new bundles. [but still rip you off to the tune of £129 to connect a phone line]"
Posted by tiggerrmummy over 6 years ago
Yet more advertising blurb from BT. Not interested. Having spent the past two weeks with very slow speed and constant drop outs I am in no way inclined to sign up for any more of BTs blurb, they cant deliver what they have now, why on earth would I pay more for an upgrade that doesnt exist and that might only take us up to the theoretical speed anyway?
Posted by rogerforward over 6 years ago
"I jumped the BT ship after becoming fed up with sly price increases." Yes, and BT have started doing the same thing with PlusNet, too. On the Budget package (£6/month) if you exceeded the 10Gb limit they charged you £2 extra, then suddenly it went up to £5 extra (so virtually doubling your monthly bill). When I asked why I hadn't been notified of the change in Ts&Cs they said that it was my responsibility to check their website for changes!
Posted by Dixinormous over 6 years ago
This is a very intelligent move in many ways. Whatever the opinion of BT Wholesale or Openreach Retail have their moments of being rather clever.
Posted by CARPETBURN over 6 years ago
quote"When I asked why I hadn't been notified of the change in Ts&Cs they said that it was my responsibility to check their website for changes!"

LMAO id love to see them use that tard excuse in court.
Posted by CARPETBURN over 6 years ago
quote"This is a very intelligent move in many ways. Whatever the opinion of BT Wholesale or Openreach Retail have their moments of being rather clever."

Agreed a genius way to still charge those stuck on ADSL the same as those few on FTTC with no obligation to upgrade them.
Posted by Dixinormous over 6 years ago
I have no idea what you're talking about. No-one on ADSL is having their prices increased from what I can see.
Posted by GMAN99 over 6 years ago
Sounds like a good offer to me, if your an existing customer and want to stay with BT its worth going for, most of the people above wouldn't switch to BT regardless of what was on offer so.....
Posted by CARPETBURN over 6 years ago
quote"I have no idea what you're talking about. No-one on ADSL is having their prices increased from what I can see."

I never said they were i said its a genius way to still charge those suck on ADSL the same price as those lucky enough to get FTTC. With no obligation to upgrade the ADSL users.
Posted by GMAN99 over 6 years ago
Surely its the other way around tho? Charging FTTC users what ADSL users pay, ADSL charges aren't changing
Posted by MarkHampshire over 6 years ago
Given the overlap between FTTC and VM areas, I suspect BT's pricing is hugely constrained. VM already have the network, BT are at last building something useful for broadband which will take them near being able to complete head on with the slower cable packages, but being so far behind, recouping the overdue investment through pricing might not be so easy.
Posted by CARPETBURN over 6 years ago
quote"Surely its the other way around tho? Charging FTTC users what ADSL users pay, ADSL charges aren't changing"

They dont need to change for them to be the same. Its a case of haves and have nots from BT....... AGAIN!
Posted by Dixinormous over 6 years ago
What does an obligation to upgrade the ADSL users have to do with BT Retail CB? It's not Retail that are doing the upgrading and it's not OR that are offering the deal.
Posted by MarkHampshire over 6 years ago
As far as the division is concerned, we need a definition of "broadband". If that's 4Mbps, then customers can apply pressure "why can't we get broadband, we only get 3Mbps narrowband".
Posted by CARPETBURN over 6 years ago
quote"What does an obligation to upgrade the ADSL users have to do with BT Retail CB? It's not Retail that are doing the upgrading and it's not OR that are offering the deal."

The have nots pay the same for ADSL as the haves pay for FTTC..... Yep totally fair, company nonsense and divisions, and your attempted diversion.... not interested in that old nonsense.
Posted by TheGuv over 6 years ago
Trying to work out what the issue is here? If you have BT Retail phone and broadband services in an upgraded area then you can get a free upgrade.

So they'll pay the appropriate fees to cover that work. If the others ISPs offering FTTC products don't offer the same deal how is that grounds to complain?

It's only a matter of time before you'll be telling us you will be writing a letter to Ofcom based on some unsubstantiated crackpot opinion.
Posted by GMAN99 over 6 years ago
As usual its backward thinking.. I assume he's saying the ADSL prices should be lowered now.

Its a good thing, but always look for the bad ;)
Posted by CaptainHulaHoop over 6 years ago
so you are saying its a bad thing tht they are offering to upgrade you for free???? really
all bt retail fttc jobs currently include engineer install to sort out peoples crap wiring if needed by moving master socket or fitting a data extension so better service at no extra cost
Posted by GMAN99 over 6 years ago
He'll always find the bad captain, no matter what
Posted by CARPETBURN over 6 years ago
quote"Trying to work out what the issue is here? If you have BT Retail phone and broadband services in an upgraded area then you can get a free upgrade."

And if you dont you pay the same as those that do. Pretty simple to follow. Not finding the bad, finding the facts.
Posted by CARPETBURN over 6 years ago
In other news Ferrari are to reduce the prices of their cars to Robin Reliant money. Offer only applies in selected areas... LOL
Posted by GMAN99 over 6 years ago
Your not even finding the bad your just making it up. It must hurt when they finally do something good.
Posted by TheGuv over 6 years ago
You've basically lost the plot.
Just a whinger for the sake of whinging. Can't think of ever seeing a more desperate reason to have a go.

Pity you can't have a constructive debate on here with your polarised stance on anything BT or Openreach do. Maybe one day....
Posted by CARPETBURN over 6 years ago
quote"Your not even finding the bad your just making it up. It must hurt when they finally do something good."

Yep its good the majority of the country will be paying the same for ADSL as the select lucky few will be paying for FTTC from them. More fair BT pricing in your head no doubt.
Posted by jerrymartin over 6 years ago
Its like me at the moment. I have BT Broadband option 2, I am paying for a service of upto 8mb speed although living over 5km away from the exchange I only get 512kpbs if I'm lucky. Total Rip off really!!!!!

Lucky for me the Huntingdon exchange is going to be fibre enabled in Dec. BT braodband wont be an dear option. Now hoping to be given the offer to upgrade, even though I have not seen any work being carried out at the green box.
Posted by CARPETBURN over 6 years ago
^^^ Exactly, these BT fanboys are quick enough to say we should all pay for what we download, not so keen in BT charging appropriate prices for the services they can provide though are they. For some reason they seem to think its fair user of old tech should pay the same as those lucky enough to get new tech.... Does this mean those stuck on ADSL and funding the limited few currently on FTTC?
Posted by GMAN99 over 6 years ago
As I say... if you can't find fault, make it up.
Posted by New_Londoner over 6 years ago
@CB
Presumably you will also be criticising Virgin given the 50Mb cable product (currently with the very uncompetitive 1.5Mb upstream speed) costs more than FTTC?
Posted by CARPETBURN over 6 years ago
Why would i criticise Virgin, the faster the service speed from them the more you pay, priced just as it should be.
Posted by New_Londoner over 6 years ago
..but clearly v.poor value for money based on your criteria as more expensive than FTTC and delivering much less upstream speed.
Posted by CARPETBURN over 6 years ago
^^^ Not really Virgin 50Mb does get throttled and downstream is faster, there is no cap either... BTs so called unlimited option 2 is either 100 or 300gig cap........ So NAH not poor value either. Superior so costs more.
Posted by CARPETBURN over 6 years ago
opps LOL ^^^ should obviously be "Virgin 50Mb does NOT get throttled"
Posted by CARPETBURN over 6 years ago
BT likewise has traffic management on P2P and some also say streaming of content. SO its inferior.
Ill pass on rate limited services and save 25 quid thanks.
Posted by New_Londoner over 6 years ago
Note no reference to upstream speeds, which are important to many business users and increasingly to us consumers too.
Posted by rasczak over 6 years ago
Carpetburn you are completely wrong once more. <quote> BTs so called unlimited option 2 is either 100 or 300gig cap</quote>

Infintity Option 2 has a FUP whereby if you reach 300 GB then your connection is throttled at times deemed by BT to be peak. These times can change at BT's discretion, but at no point are you capped and cannot use it at all any more that month. Similar to Virgin except the BT throttle kicks in based on monthly rather than hourly usage.
No need for any thanks for the education.
Posted by CARPETBURN over 6 years ago
quote"Note no reference to upstream speeds, which are important to many business users and increasingly to us consumers too."
Oh it has one advantage until Virgin increase their up speed this year, then it loses in that area also.
Posted by CARPETBURN over 6 years ago
Rasczak its a cap, and letters have been sent to people that regular go over that cap. Virgin do not traffic shape on 50Mb so ya wrong there also.
Posted by rasczak over 6 years ago
Carpetburn wrong yet again. There is no cap on BT Infinity Option 2. If it wants to keep up this claim then show it should show evidence where anyone's service has been stopped totally due to reaching a heavy user threshold. I don't expect any to be forthcoming as there is no cap.
Posted by CARPETBURN over 6 years ago
^^ A cap doesnt have to equal service stopped, where did you get that bizaree idea?

For reference a limiting condition; restrictive weakness; lack of capacity; inability or handicap: something that limits; a bound; restriction:

You do speak English dont you?
Posted by rasczak over 6 years ago
A cap is a maximum limit.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/cap
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/CAP
http://www.oxfordadvancedlearnersdictionary.com/dictionary/cap

There is no maximum limit of data transfer in a month placed on BT Infinity Option 2, other than that of 28/29/30/31 days.

Is that enough English for you to show that you are wrong ? I wouldn't have thought so, you will never admit it even in the face of, as in this case and so many before, overwhelming evidence that you are.
Posted by CARPETBURN over 6 years ago
Indeed and from your first link...
a maximum limit, as one set by law or agreement on prices, wages, spending, etc., during a certain period of time; ceiling: a 9 percent cap on pay increases for this year

THE MAXIMUM LIMIT is 300gig after that you are throttled, therefore thats a limitation. In fact P2P is throttled before you get to that limit as stated in their own terms so its a limited service anyway.

NO CAP would mean its unlimited, the service isnt unlimited because it has limitations, an idiot can follow that, or so i thought.

You do know what a limitation is dont you?
Posted by CARPETBURN over 6 years ago
Dictionary limitation, then apply that word to your so called arguement. It all fits.
Posted by TheGuv over 6 years ago
Splitting hairs CB and taking the bait far to often I'm afraid.

Such a pity no one is respecting your posts due to your sh*tty attitude towards others and over the top anti BT stance.
Posted by rasczak over 6 years ago
A BT Infinity option 2 user who saturates the guaranteed connection speed would be able to get 300 GB in a little under 3 days of constant traffic. If the times of throttled traffic after that are done by the FUP page, then for the remaining 27 days of a 30 month, then nearly 2 TB is able to be downloaded at the guaranteed connection speed if saturated during unthrottled time, even if no use is made at all during the peak times.
Posted by rasczak over 6 years ago
Even if they were throttled for 14 hours a day, they could still get over 1 TB in the unthrottled hours. Explain again how this means they are capped to a maximum limit of 300GB total usage ?
Posted by CARPETBURN over 6 years ago
quote".......If the times of throttled traffic after that are done by the FUP page......"

NO definative times for Option 2 FTTC are given they basically just say "busy" times.
Posted by CARPETBURN over 6 years ago
quote"Splitting hairs CB and taking the bait far to often I'm afraid.

Such a pity no one is respecting your posts due to your sh*tty attitude towards others and over the top anti BT stance."

I dont expect respect from my posts, the regular few who personally attack me and my opinions shows more than enough nerves are struck. A cap is a limitation and BT services have limitations, pretty simple to comprehend.
Posted by rasczak over 6 years ago
So you can't explain how 1.5 TB of data can be downloaded if there is a maximum limit of 300GB, so you try and divert attention from that and onto the times of the throttles which had already been addressed.

Translated - you know you are wrong but don't want to admit it even though it is obvious to everyone.
Posted by CARPETBURN over 6 years ago
The throttles are when the network is busy..... You dont know TIMES they deem the network to be busy on option 2.... You dont know what SPEED they throttle to..... SO how you even can come up with a 1.5TB figure is amazing..... If they throttle 24/7 because they deem the network is "busy", and they throttle to 1kbps...... How would you even get to 1.5TB???? Please link to times they throttle and the rates they throttle to if we are going to discuss possible maximum amounts of data you can transfer.
Posted by CARPETBURN over 6 years ago
YOU CANT LINK TO EITHER BECAUSE THEY DONT PUBLISH IT. THERE IS NO GUARANTEED MINIMUM SPEED WHEN THROTTLES ARE IN PLACE, POINT WHERE IT SAYS THE MINIMUM SPEED WHEN THROTTLING IS IN PLACE, AGAIN YOU CANT!
Posted by CARPETBURN over 6 years ago
Your maths fails, your English skills fail.... You fail to grasp a "CAP" is a limitation..... Your whole arguement is a HUGE FAIL.
Posted by rasczak over 6 years ago
I wasn't going to reply as you obviously won't take it on board, but that just leaves this open to people who don't understand possibly believing you are right and that cannot be allowed.
Posted by rasczak over 6 years ago
I have only given estimates for what can be downloaded where no throttling would apply, so the speed that connections are throttled to are irrelevant. The times they expect to set any throttles are clearly stated at http://bt.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/10495/c/ which is a base of 7 hours a day. You say the throttle could be 24/7, but you provide no evidence that that has ever happened.
Posted by rasczak over 6 years ago
I gave a bad case scenario of 14 hours a day, double what BT say is likely, classed as peak and throttled, granted no evidence that throttling has ever lasted even that long on a connection, but certainly at the extreme of what anyone could class as being peak, and that still allows for 1 TB over 27 days, and the 12 Mb/s Infinity will guarantee.
Posted by rasczak over 6 years ago
No amount of shouting will change that fact that may calculations are demonstrably correct, and that more that 300GB can be transferred during a month on BT Infinity Option 2. Even it the throttle was 24/7 and restricted you to 64 Kbps, then you could still get another 16 GB after the throttle came in, 316 > 300 so to claim that it is capped or limited to 300 GB as a maximum is a bare faced lie.
Posted by New_Londoner over 6 years ago
@CB
Call me a pedant but a "cap" is not the same as "throttling". Leave you to look both up, but they are very different things, cannot be used interchangeably to mean the same thing.

Were you being ironic in criticising Rasczak's English skills, given various issues in your own posts?
Posted by New_Londoner over 6 years ago
@CB
WIth regards upstream speeds, you'd need to wait to see whether Virgin introduce the 100Mb service, AND also introduce the 10:1 ration of downstream to upstream to have a competitive upstream speed.

Surprised you're comparing the 40/10 FTTC product which is on sale today with the 100/10 cable product that might be on offer in the future. How can you say the latter is better value? How do you know, where is it on sale?

If we're talking about pilot products, FTTP wins over cable every time.
Posted by MarkHampshire over 6 years ago
"so you are saying its a bad thing tht they are offering to upgrade you for free????" - no, I just think the wording is hilarious. "We're the only company with free upgrades to fibre" - VM don't need to upgrade people to fibre, they've had the network for donkey's years. It's like a bike company thinking they're onto something because they've discovered round wheels work better thean square ones 100 years after everyone else.
Posted by MarkHampshire over 6 years ago
How on earth does FTTC win over cable?

With the former, you get an indeterminate speed which peaks at a sync of 40Mbps if you're lucky (not actual throughput), by which time you've paid for connection and are probably in contract.

With the latter, you pick and pay for the speed you want and generally get 95%+ of that throughput.

Cable is hardly a pilot product, even the 50Mbps service has been around for a while now.

Upstream is quicker on FTTC, yes. At the moment. However downstream remains the major determinant for the overwhelming majority of people.
Posted by GMAN99 over 6 years ago
"With the latter, you pick and pay for the speed you want and generally get 95%+ of that throughput" I think many many many Cable customers would take issue with your 95% claim Mark. I'm not saying FTTC is better than cable but to say that 95% of the time you get what you pay for on Cable... well.. I'm sure Virgin would love that to be true.
Posted by New_Londoner over 6 years ago
@Mark "How on earth does FTTC win over cable?" I think you misread the comment, which said FTTP not FTTC.

The pilot reference was in terms of the 100Mb downstream, 10Mb upstream cable offering - or for that matter the 50Mb/5Mb.

Upstream is becoming an increasing issue, certainly matters now for many businesses. Is incresing in importance for consumers uploading photos & video, using remote backup services etc.
Posted by Dixinormous over 6 years ago
MarkHampshire - generally 95% of that throughput? Ofcom appear to disagree.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/4325-uk-broadband-speeds-increase-but-promise-to-delivery-gap-widens.html
Posted by bzsmith over 6 years ago
hopeful...When are BT cusomers likely to be given the option of having Bt Infinity ? next century !
Posted by CARPETBURN over 6 years ago
quote"..speed that connections are throttled to are irrelevant. The times they expect to set any throttles are clearly stated at http://bt.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/10495/c/ which is a base of 7 hours a day. You say the throttle could be 24/7, but you provide no evidence that that has ever happened."

..... quote from your link...
"...WILL experience SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED speed at peak times (TYPICALLY 5pm-midnight every day but these TIMES MAY CHANGE depending on the demand on the network)
SO NO SPEED QUOTED AND NO FIXED TIMES QUOTED EITHER... TARD!
Posted by CARPETBURN over 6 years ago
YOU MATHS AS I ORIGINALLY SAID... EQUALS EPIC FAIL!
YOU LINKED TO SOMETHING THAT PROVES WHAT I STATED, YOU CANT LINK TO SPEEDS THEY THROTTLE TO OR EXACT TIMES SO YOU CANT CALCULATE WHAT YOU CAN DO IN A MONTH. UNLESS YOU DREAM UP FIGURES LIKE YOU DID.... IN SHORT, YOU ARE DIM!
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