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BT strike averted
Friday 09 July 2010 10:42:44 by John Hunt

A strike by Communication Workers Union (CWU) members has been averted following agreement having been met BT and the union's executive. The CWU balloted members back in June following a 2% pay increase proposal when the Chief Executive saw his remuneration increase by 79% in 2009-2010.

The union were pushing for a 5% increase but the agreement sees members receive a 3% pensionable pay increase backdated to January 2010 and running for 39months.

"This agreement is good for BT, its employees, shareholders and customers. BT will benefit from a long period of certainty whilst our employees will have financial stability during uncertain economic times. I am pleased that we have been able to work with the union's leadership to resolve this matter as industrial action would have been in no-one's interest."

Ian Livingstone, (Chief Executive) BT

The CWU will now recommend the package to members in a consultative ballot in the next few weeks.

Comments

Posted by CARPETBURN over 6 years ago
Does this mean the poor workers over in India will get a pay increase to be able to afford to feed their family......... Or is it only relevant to the UK workers..... The ones who put you on hold for half an hour, bill you for work you shouldnt be billed for, are incapable of cancelling a direct debit even when asked, and pay engineers that come along and screw up your internal cabling?
Ah democracy in BT lives!
Posted by TaRkADaHl over 6 years ago
Carpetburn - this is for people who are on the BT Newgrid pay scheme only, this will not include outsourced companies, such as HCL.

If HCL want to put through a pay increase, then they will.

The people in india don't work for BT, they work for HCL, HCL works for BT.
Posted by mattbibby over 6 years ago
Unions will be the death of the British Economy one day!
Posted by TaRkADaHl over 6 years ago
In theory unions are good, a voice for the people yadda yadda...

But in practice it can be very different...
Posted by Gypsydog over 6 years ago
mattbibby

Who was responsible for the recent world-wide economic crash ????

Oh!! now I remember the big "Unions" called baks; hedge funds; sb-prime mortgages etc.etc.
Who is having to pay ??? everybody except the above
Posted by Gypsydog over 6 years ago
Coorection to typo's in above post of mine 'Banks' 'Sub-prime'
Posted by CARPETBURN over 6 years ago
quote"Carpetburn - this is for people who are on the BT Newgrid pay scheme only, this will not include outsourced companies, such as HCL.

If HCL want to put through a pay increase, then they will.

The people in india don't work for BT, they work for HCL, HCL works for BT."

Really HCL have to ask BT for a pay increase to their workers? Workers that earn less than the UK bunch which are getting a pay increase? BT and their union members should be ashamed. The poorest workers earning peanuts while the lazy and dare i say at time incompetetant UK bunch want pay increases? Pffft
Posted by TaRkADaHl over 6 years ago
Are you serious? Really?

HCL are a company... do you understand this so far?

HCL employ people... still with me?

They pay them money... please dont get lost here..

They decide their pay... oh my god its getting confusing

BT employ HCL's services... jees its really confusing now

BT have no say over the management/terms of employment of these people... WOW IM CONFUSED

So if a pay rise is going to be done... its done by the employer... HOT DAMN YOU'HV LOST ME NOW!

Learn how a business operates.
Posted by TaRkADaHl over 6 years ago
HCL will have a contract with BT to answer so many calls, HCL will state how many man hours are required to answer that many calls and how much they charge for each man hour, HCL then gets a nice fat cheque then divides it up between workers whilst taking cuts.

If HCL are going to pay them more, then they will advise BT when time comes up for contract renewal of the man man/hour cost and it is up to BT to decide if they go with it or not.

Its called outsourcing, not micro-management.
Posted by TaRkADaHl over 6 years ago
BT will monitor calls, and provide feedback based on complaints, but in the end it is up to HCL to do coaching and hand slapping, which they will, becuase it is in their interest to keep the people with the cheque book happy.
Posted by TaRkADaHl over 6 years ago
"Really HCL have to ask BT for a pay increase to their workers?" - at the time of contract renewal they state their price....or they can take a cut out of their profits... its their choice really.
Posted by CARPETBURN over 6 years ago
Do you realise the amount of contradictions you have made in almost every post?
Posted by Somerset over 6 years ago
cb - please list them.
Posted by CARPETBURN over 6 years ago
Whats the point it will only get the comments on this locked as i respond to another BT fanboys direct and personal derogatory tone... If the BT bots spent as much time coming up with ideas for BT as they do personally adressing me on here the company may have a clue... That or fold completely to the pleasure of us normal folk.
Posted by Somerset over 6 years ago
Explanation of outsourcing seems correct though.

ps - glad we established the latecy difference was microseconds nad not milliseconds!
Posted by CARPETBURN over 6 years ago
quote"ps - glad we established the latecy difference was microseconds nad not milliseconds!"

Yep which increases with cable length as i tried to tell you in about half a dozen posts.
Posted by GMAN99 over 6 years ago
More random rants. The strike was about members of the CWU no-one else, but its got BT in the title so.. flame on as usual. /sigh
Posted by Somerset over 6 years ago
cb - please continue latency duscussion in a forum. The delay is totally insignificant.
Posted by Somerset over 6 years ago
Posted in General Broadband Chatter. Asking if end used speed (not latency) is affected by cabinet distance.

HCL pay is set by HCL, not BT. That's what outsourcing is about.
Posted by CARPETBURN over 6 years ago
quote"cb - please continue latency duscussion in a forum. The delay is totally insignificant."

I agree entirely, which is why you shouldnt had been the first to mention latency in this stories comments.
Id also suggest you stop personally addressing me with replies, the comments are not for that either..... Please practice what you preach. I suspect your posts were an attempt to flame bait me into an overly aggressively reply. I guess im lucky you are not very good at fishing.
Posted by nevillec over 6 years ago
I used to enjoy reading about the many news items on broadband.Intelligent comments etc., however now, the garbage that appears from the cb has reduced my interest to nil. The current comments are total rubbish and obvisouly come from someone who has no conception on the structure of contractors and large companies. I don't think I will visit page until someone removes this person from the the forums.
Posted by CARPETBURN over 6 years ago
I dont think your comments were about the news item at all. Yet you decided to have your say anyway. Unlike you though i appreciate the ability for everyone to comment and dont want to be a sad little armchair dictator.
Obviously your interest is not "nil" otherwise you wouldnt of bothered typing. Though that logic is probably beyond your comprehension.
Heres a concept if my opinion on subject matter bothers you so much... When you see my name ignore anything that follows, that way you will save your precious little time.
Posted by searcher100 over 6 years ago
snore
Posted by chrysalis over 6 years ago
mattbibby your comment is like saying a rich population is bad for the country. higher wages = more spending power and a better economy.
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