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First 50 homes in Bournemouth on fibre network
Thursday 26 March 2009 10:28:40 by Andrew Ferguson

Bournemouth has trumped both BT and Virgin Media with the roll-out of full fibre to the home services by the i3 Group. ISPreview spotted the news that the group has now connected its first 50 homes to its fibre network, further detail is available via a press release on the Fibrecity website.

While BT at Ebbsfleet is talking of 100Mbps speeds and Virgin Media is suggested that 100 to 150Mbps is possible via its DOCSIS 3.0 network, i3 are already providing 140Mbps of connectivity. Two fibres are installed to each home, one dedicated to community TV, health and other council services running at 40Mbps. The second fibre is for use by paid for services such as IPTV, telephony and broadband access at 100Mbps (this is a symmetric speed, i.e. both downstream and upstream are 100Mbps). The release does not give any detail on the actual broadband service that is available, which hopefully the firm will add to its website soon, as for many homeowners this information will be very important.

One of the potential reasons for the lack of information is that these initial homes are being seen as a showcase and are given free access. Their aim is to ramp roll-out up to be doing 2000 homes per week and even more as they add additional cities.

Comments

Posted by cyberdoyle over 8 years ago
wow, power to the people, well done!
Posted by njalondon over 8 years ago
The Genie is firmly out of the botle now, after years ofplanning the NGA3 deployments are finally seeing the light of day I wonder how soon it will be before BT are forced to respond with a fully fibre access network, my guess is they'll eventually ened up buying Fibrecity/i3, in a similar manner to what KPN is doing in Holland.
Posted by ian9outof10 over 8 years ago
Does seem like in 10 years, this sort of thing will be much more common.
Posted by bezuk over 8 years ago
Hopefully we'll see an actual ISP with clearly defined products available for people on this network to sign up to - seems like this info has been "coming soon" for months.

Hopefully a TBB reader is on the network and can fill us in if this happens quietly.
Posted by sloman over 8 years ago
Nice, wish i lived in Bournemouth just for this reason.

I have seen from speed test site people with Fibre connections have really low pings, brilliant for gaming.

It would be good if Sky or Be* was the ISP's truly unlimited BB, not like the scumbags VM who i am with.

Yes you can have 20mb for 30mins then we will STM you for 5-10hrs!
Posted by CARPETBURN over 8 years ago
All i can say to those that doubted this company in the past a big "HA".

Done before BT, faster and free (for now). Lets hope they manage their 2000 homes a wekk goal and more services like this become available around the country.

Quite funny really these little companies that get things done before BT, provide faster speeds and no stupid caps.

Well done to i2 Group (AKA H20 Networks) Lets hope the future of fibre is like LLU is now and those which want value and speed atleast in some areas can have it.
Posted by adslmax over 8 years ago
does this mean it will be installing uk nationwide with 2000 homes per week ? cities or town ? will every area's get it ?
Posted by PeteK over 8 years ago
While this is great news, something tells me much like the SYDR project, much of it is being funded on the back of some project for the county council or NHS to get their workers/patients home and therefore it is effectively sponsored. I would love to be proved wrong, but whose betting those on it are under a press NDA and don't even know what their neighbour will be paying for it
Posted by njalondon over 8 years ago
2000 a week in the Bournemouth area as the premises are fibred up, later in the year it will be Dundee. H2O has cable in the ground in several other towns already I know of Clacton, Bath Aberdeen and i think Kidderminster. Northampton was also listed as a location for a development as well.
Posted by CARPETBURN over 8 years ago
^^^ Nice addtional information njalondon sounds like they are serious, may have took them a while but superb to see they have finally got going :)
Posted by boots over 7 years ago
I wonder how much interest will continue after the tariffs are announced?
Posted by MarcusJClifford over 7 years ago
I've done the initial signup for my flat in Dundee. I'll let you know via the forum how it progresses - so far I've just had the initial contract emails but no details about when etc...
Posted by KarlAustin over 7 years ago
CB - It's a lot easier for small companies to do things like this than BT - BT have to keep inline with what Ofcom allows (which means months if not years of reviews, consultations etc. because of their largely dominant position in the market).
Posted by njalondon over 7 years ago
The problem wirg H2O isn't that they don't do anything they just don't adequate;y publicise it. I'm sure even more places are fibred.
Posted by CARPETBURN over 7 years ago
quote"CB - It's a lot easier for small companies to do things like this than BT - BT have to keep inline with what Ofcom allows (which means months if not years of reviews, consultations etc. because of their largely dominant position in the market)."

Im sorry but that is rubbish all companies that provide phone or broadband services basically answer to ofcom. It comes down to one thing... MONEY and this small company should be congratulated for getting up and running.
Posted by KarlAustin over 7 years ago
lolol, they don't all fall in to the same regulations though, because they don't have a near monopoloy position - do you think if I went out and did fibre to 2000 homes in a city that Ofcom would apply the same rules/regs as they would to BT? No, they wouldn't.
Posted by Dawn_Falcon over 7 years ago
No Carpet, it's not "rubbish". BT and to an extent NTL have to go through long and expensive processes before they are allowed to launch products.

That you're not even aware of the regulations imposed by the OFCOM you love says so much.
Posted by CARPETBURN over 7 years ago
Dawn_Falcon, I suggest you run along and read previously H20 Networks stories before i quote extracts and make you look even more stupid. Every comms provider is at the mercy of Ofcom, this small company has been in discussion and testing for years before it got to this stage. They are small yes. They had to spend lots of cash and get permission just like anyone else. They beat BT to it, end off.
@KarlAustin atleast you have the sense to realise BT is a monopoly.
Posted by chrysalis over 7 years ago
BT get regulated but they also have market advantage in that they have brand name eg. most of BT broadband customers are there simply because they know the company. BT can also do rollouts at lower cost than anyone else as they already have infrastructure in place.
Posted by Dawn_Falcon over 7 years ago
No Carpetburn, I suggest you read the literature on the Ofcom site which explains how they make BT justify products, expensively and over a long period - where other UK companies can freely launch services.

This small company has taken so long to get where it is because the economics are so unfavourable to it's approach.
Posted by CARPETBURN over 7 years ago
If you think its only BT that answer to ofcom and have rules placed upon them harder, you are a complete idiot.
They maybe small, the economics may not be in their favour, they still beat BT to the punch though, just like LLU beat BT to ADSL2+..... Go on now spout dribble about how BT have to answer to ofcom more than for example Sky and O2 do.
Well done to i3 (AKA H2O) i say, service sounds superb i imagine the few in bournemouth are over the moon.
Face it BT are slow and live in the past, then they panic and try to play catch up.
Posted by zuccster over 7 years ago
I live in BH10 (apparently the first area to be connected) and signed up on the first day. I've yet to see any sign of activity around this area. Does anyone else from Bournemouth have any idea where these mysterious first 50 properties are?
Posted by c_j_ over 7 years ago
"to those that doubted this company in the past a big "HA".

HI.

Remember SSE Telecom's announcement(s) of their imminent "full commercial rollout" of powerline broadband?

Remember their invisible customers, even though SSE were both connectivity provider (H2O/I3 here) and ISP (who?)?

Remember SSE also had a few scattered sites which they'd used as local demonstrators (H2O do too)?

And H2O's "use the sewers" approach still needs a "street works permit" ?

I wish them luck. But it's early days.
Posted by Dawn_Falcon over 7 years ago
No Carpet, I'm accurate. You have no awareness of the actual stuation and how BT are forced by the government into a very inefficient market position.

It's very easy to beat someone to the punch when your main opponents hands are tied behind their back.
Posted by cyberdoyle over 7 years ago
If it isn't a stupid question...
... why can't bt or any other company JFDI? why do they have to have consultations and waste time and money talking about it all the time? Surely it isn't that hard to shove a bit of fibre through a duct and couple it up to a POP if it is your job? I mean I don't consult for hours on how to bake a cake?
Posted by CARPETBURN over 7 years ago
quote "No Carpet, I'm accurate. You have no awareness of the actual stuation and how BT are forced by the government into a very inefficient market position.

It's very easy to beat someone to the punch when your main opponents hands are tied behind their back."
Complete, utter and if i do dare say BT fanboy gibberish, honestly even an idiot knows the likes of Sky and O2 have to obey a laid down set of guidelines from ofcom. No one company is fingered more than another, including BT.
Posted by danjkent over 7 years ago
Keep it friendly peeps!

BT have the finances/infrastructure but may or may not be limited by the regs, i3/H20/Fibrecity may or may not be as limited by the regs but don't have as much in the way of the finances/infrastructure.

Each has their advantages over the other so it just comes down to who gets over the finish line first so fair play to i3 for getting this far.

Their engineer's vans look better too!
Posted by blackislegirl over 7 years ago
Ofcom regulates different companies in different ways. The General Conditions apply to any company to offer communications service. BT on the other hand is bound by its Undertakings to offer wholesale access to all operators (via Openreach) whether external to BT or internal (ie BT Retail.) This means that BT cannot 'keep' all end users its network reaches. H2O can. This difference affects the economics of NGA.
Posted by njalondon over 7 years ago
To add to an earlier post, the midlands town with H2o fibre going in to the ground is Ludlow. For a business needing visibility they're very lowkey.

http://www.shropshire.gov.uk/hwmaint.nsf/open/203083CBC8F44BB880257553005E7758
Posted by Somerset over 7 years ago
This just for Ludlow college, not homes.
Posted by njalondon over 7 years ago
I'm aware of that i can read as well as you can. What it illustrates is a company that's putting fibre in the ground, the Bournmouth project started off in much the same manner.
Posted by Somerset over 7 years ago
No different to C&W, Energis, VM, Thus etc. that install fibre around the country. Hundreds of companies have licences to dig up the ground.
Posted by Dixinormous over 7 years ago
'The connections are not 'live' just yet but this will be happening very shortly. The talks regarding the provider are still ongoing as far as I am aware but obviously we want to get these 50 homes live as soon as possible to highlight the network to everyone.

Once the services are live we will be doing lots of press releases showcasing the network and its capabilities so you will certainly be able to see what to expect.'

There is nothing going down the fibre at this time, it remains dark.
Posted by cyberdoyle over 7 years ago
Bit like the rest of the country then. In the dark ages. Time to light it everywhere. The end game is in sight? oh please let me see it in my lifetime.
Posted by Dawn_Falcon over 7 years ago
Quantum entangled commuications? Great!

(Fiber is decidedly not an "end game")
Posted by Dixinormous over 7 years ago
You disagree with every industry analyst on that one Mr Falcon. Fibre is the end game for communications, specifically FTTO. If you have anything to back up your view it isn't beyond because BT aren't really doing it and to favour it goes against your role as our resident BT shill please do provide.
Posted by Dixinormous over 7 years ago
Ahh now I see. Given that standard fibre to most homes is about as far away while BT maintain their duopoly with Virgin Media as quantum entangled comms I see your point! That said I don't really see the relevance of theoretical tech to real life comms at this time, but nice nitpick.
Posted by Somerset over 7 years ago
Order a 'proper', non ADSL internet connection from an ISP and it will probably come on fibre.
Posted by Somerset over 7 years ago
Something like BTnet Premium. Leased line at 10Mbps, 30Mbps & 100Mbps.

http://www.btbroadbandoffice.com/broadband-and-internet/internet-access/btnet-premium
Posted by Dawn_Falcon over 7 years ago
Given FTTH in residential areas is completely unviable economically (I know know why Verizon's doing it, given the *subsidies*..) on any rational level except potentially new-build appartments...

And there were communication media before fibre, there will be ones after fibre. Trying to position it as an "end game" is mysticism.
Posted by Dixinormous over 7 years ago
What subsidies would those be Falcon? The amount of disinformation you spread regarding FTTH is shocking.
The broadband stimulus subsidies you referred to have not been handed out, and Verizon FiOS presently passes over 12 million homes.
Nice try again though, keep swallowing the BT BS.
Posted by Dixinormous over 7 years ago
Quick Dawn: http://www.iliad.fr/en/ - these guys need the benefit of your advice, tell them what they are doing isn't viable, after all BT say so and won't lay a single strand of fibre in brownfield, let along active fibre.
Posted by Somerset over 7 years ago
As in:

As part of the roll-out of its FTTH network, the Group confirms its objective of:
Posted by Somerset over 7 years ago
Providing horizontal coverage of 70% of Paris by the second half year
2009,

Providing horizontal coverage to 4 million households by end 2012.
Posted by Dixinormous over 7 years ago
3 million more than BT plan to provide coverage to by the end of 2012, though BT won't get near their 1 million target due to slower home building.
Posted by Somerset over 7 years ago
There would be a riot if BT just did London!

What does horizontal mean? Just to ground floor of multistory buildings?
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