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Manchester fibre network in next month
Tuesday 17 March 2009 09:46:31 by Andrew Ferguson

Manchester will already have a lot of fibre optic cable running around the city, but the problem for smaller businesses and homes is the cost of tapping into this. Manchester City Council is keen to position the city as a "Next Generation City" by building an open network that utilises fibre to the premises and wireless.

ISPreview spotted an item on a recruitment website, which included the following quote.

"If Manchester's economy is to continue to grow then it is vital that we have accessible and affordable super-fast broadband, based on the proven state-of-the-art capabilities of fibre and advanced wireless; this is what the Next Generation Digital City project aims to do. We know that other European cities which are competing directly with us, such as Amsterdam and Paris, are providing fibre directly into businesses and the home, at a fraction of the cost of anywhere in the UK. Consumers and businesses then benefit by having reliable broadband at anything up to 1,000 times the speeds that are currently offered here. We believe that this will soon become a major competitive threat to Manchester and the UK as a whole."

Executive Member for Environment, Councillor Neil Swannick

The network is being described as available to the Oxford Road areas of the city later this month, but no indications of whether this is referring to the infrastructure, or the ability for a consumer to actually get an Internet connection over the link. A report on the capital expenditure by the council lists the Oxford Road corridor as covering the Ardwick, Hulme, Moss Side, Rusholme and City Centre Wards, with an increase in the capital budget of £487,000 (£50,000 in 2008/09, £250,000 in 2009/10 and £187,000 in 2010/11).

While the number of fibre projects is increasing, we are very quickly approaching a point where next generation broadband in the UK will take on a patchwork look, with slightly different solutions in different parts of the country. Service providers will by and large not embrace the varied nature of how customers connect over the multitude of open networks emerging, thus we may see just one or two providers offering service on the new fibre networks. The end result being that takeup will be reduced as some remain on ADSL/ADSL2+/cable infrastructures due to the complete package which is offered.


Posted by cyberdoyle over 8 years ago
aye, there will be a right patchwork as people decide to JFDI instead of waiting for the incumbent to provide it. Many will remain on the old fashioned landline connections in the same way they clung to dial up in 2003.
Posted by AndrueC over 8 years ago
'Incumbent' is such an old fashioned word. Ofcom wouldn't be happy to hear you still using it. We now have several major players all capable of rolling out fibre if they wanted to.

Why are you expecting just one of them to do it? They already supply the only truly national broadband service in the country.
Posted by AndrueC over 8 years ago the whole world possibly. BT have plenty of faults but let's not let the other sods off the hook.
Posted by andrew (Favicon staff member) over 8 years ago
A patchwork and varying solutions become an issue, e.g. if a provider was to offer me 50Meg down and 10Meg up, but the terms did not allow any 'server' applications, or support static IP then I would be at the very least retaining a legacy ADSL service.

Imagine a firm that has workers spread over an area that falls into several different schemes, it will end up with multiple bills and may just take the easy route out for its home workers and stay with BT Retail for example.
Posted by scootie over 8 years ago
thers only one way to make sure all isp's have acess to and able to offer the multipulle packages which suit diffrent users needs on fibre and thats for one company to install nation wide and affarid it looks as BTw are the only ones that can offer this universal fibre network.
fibre is no use to me unless the isp i am connected to uses dpi traffic managment to make sure my gaming traffic is not bogged down by others p2p on the network
Posted by Dawn_Falcon over 8 years ago
Then your games traffic will be bogged down by the dpi. You lose, either way.
Posted by kamelion over 8 years ago
nice I am in the roll-out area :)
Posted by cyberdoyle over 8 years ago
I use the word 'incumbent' cos all roads lead to rome, ie bt wholesale, that is who i mean. They hold the key to next gen, only gov can make them turn the key and set the people free.
Posted by Dawn_Falcon over 8 years ago
Or they could stop all the inappropriate measures placed on BT and let them compete in a free market. "Setting people free" as a byword for "more government regulation" is cute, though.
Posted by jonathan_d over 8 years ago
Does anyone know where to find out more information about this then?
Noticed there was loads of digging near Central Library today, but doubt it's related.
The article mentions 'advanced wireless' too - I know WiMax has been available from transmitters on City Tower for at least a year but it's still very expensive for small businesses!
Posted by CARPETBURN over 8 years ago
quote"They hold the key to next gen, only gov can make them turn the key and set the people free."
We can only hope BT still sniff around government for a handout to improve services and government after giving them the cash start to demand things BT MUST do. Highly unlikely though, and more likely they will spending the time kissing each others backsides. I suspect their horrid monopoly will be here for years to come and as always for a RICH European country our services will be some of the worst... 5Mb upload and they call it fibre <<< thats funny LOL
Posted by CARPETBURN over 8 years ago
Can you imagine a swedish person coming to the UK for a year or longer, seeing this fibre advertised and thinking 'oh that will be good didnt know the UK had fibre'.... Once they get it though you can just imagine the swearing (in swedish LOL) when they find the connection only runs at 20-40Mb on the downstream and around 5Mb on the upstream, for double what they paid back home.... Ah the BT reality has dawned.
Posted by Somerset over 8 years ago
BT monopoly? What about VM, KCOM, C&W and all the others?
Posted by CARPETBURN over 8 years ago
VM = Cable not phone company, small percent of the country

KCOM = Was BT ever available in that SMALL area, ah i see ya comparing an area less than 10% of the UK to BTs 90% and trying to say that means at 90% its not a monopoly?

C&W = Who??? Unless im wrong i dont think they exist under that name anymore do they? Didnt they also use BT poles for the phone service?
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