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£1 for 30 minutes of 100Mbps
Tuesday 10 February 2009 17:26:52 by Andrew Ferguson

Velocity1 may be new, and may only be available on one new development known as Wembley City that will comprise of 10,000 homes when finished, but it increases the number of options for people seeking a 25Mbps or faster broadband connection.

The launch was at the end of January 2009, but we did not write it up then as we were waiting on feedback from the company as to what the upstream speeds were. Fortunately Rory Cellan-Jones of the BBC has paid a visit to the development and reported a speedtest of 75Mbps down and 50Mbps up while using the boost button available to residents. The boost button allows people to decide as and when they need the full 100Mbps that the fibre to each home can provide, otherwise you are limited to a speed defined by the price you pay, i.e. £15 gets you a 8Mbps limit, £19 a 16Mbps limit and £29 tops out at 32Mbps. The boosts cost £1 for 30 minutes, but if you make maximum use of this you can download 22GB in this time.

Bundles are also available that include a telephone line and up to 120 TV and radio channels. While the TV package does not offer all the channels people may want, the availability of HD downloads from places like iTunes means people need not miss out. Services like LOVEFiLM also offer films for download or rental, although it only offers material at what it calls DVD quality currently.

Rory Cellan-Jones raises the age old question of why people need 100Mbps connections. To some extent this applies to people owning a computer and having an Internet connection at all. We can all still do our banking at the local bank and most other online activities are still possible in the real world. Those who were working in the 80's will remember what it was like queueing up at the bank at lunchtime to pay a bill, or writing letters to get standing orders changed. Working from home for many has been a boon bringing savings in the costs of commuting to work, and offering the potential for more time with the family.

While 100Mbps is not needed for most online activities, having speeds of 25Mbps or more means, that one member of a family playing an online game will not be affected by someone else doing some web browsing or streaming a TV show. With connections of 1 or 2Mbps you usually find that one activity is fine, but get two or three devices online that are doing more than just reading websites and you find yourself staring at the screen while a video rebuffers. In the 20's and 30's radio was the key form of home entertainment; by the 60's and 70's television was king, and the start of the 21st century is seeing Internet activities starting to take over.


Posted by Spectre_01 over 8 years ago
*waits for the same people who were moaning about not having fibre and 100Mbps lines to start moaning about the price*
Posted by Somerset over 8 years ago
For the first time in the UK, rubbish was transported through a system of underground vacuum pipes today when the Envac system beneath Quintain’s Wembley City scheme was switched on.
Posted by uniquename over 8 years ago
Very flashy web site, but info on pure broadband seems impossible to find. Only the bundles. The splash screen with 3 options fades out before you have time to select one. (Ah - you can't select one).

As you say, no important details available. The bundle prices are also subject to a very faint asterisk hike after 3 months.

No info on what the Boost does.

Con merchants.
Posted by Somerset over 8 years ago
£30 for 16M package and no mention of a PVR. May be £9/month extra.
Posted by Dawn_Falcon over 8 years ago
Heh. So people can pay £1 and find that the server at the other end caps out well below 100MBit. Woo!

There's also a FuP with no details and no other actual technical details you'd need to see if it was a good offer or not.
Posted by kendal01 over 8 years ago
your right of course dawn. i have another problem but that may be just due to the math! my calculations suggest the full 100mbit for 30 mins would give you max download of around 4gb!!!
Posted by chrysalis over 8 years ago
It shows how far behind we are that a FTTP service can get away with providing low default speeds. I do wonder how countries like sweden can provide 100/100 without a usage limit as well as having a average usage of 27gig a month across their customer base yet uk isps struggle with a average usage of a 10th of that. It is very good they are utilising a burst charging model tho.
Posted by andrew (Favicon staff member) over 8 years ago
100Mbps = 12MB/sec, 1800 x 12 = 22500MB, i.e. 22.5GB
Posted by bezuk over 8 years ago
Upstream speed is obviously great "boosted" but I'd be interested to know what it's like on the standard three packages. No mention of it on that site.
Posted by AndrueC over 8 years ago
@kendal01:Well it certainly won't stack up with the units as you wrote them.

You wrote that 100 millibits for 30 minutes was 4 <unknown unit prefix>bits. If 'gb' means anything it would have to be less than 10^-24.

Sorry to be pedantic but in these discussions it matters.
Posted by ElBobbo over 8 years ago
It's called context, AndrueC. Everyone understands what kendal means by 'mbit' because we're human and have the capability to interpret based on knowledge gained elsewhere. This is what separates us from AI routines and - apparently - people like you. As you can see here: the only other alternative unit is mebibit, which is written as Mibit.
Posted by Somerset over 8 years ago
ElBobbo - Why not just use the correct letters?
Posted by kendal01 over 8 years ago
you misunderstand, i actually missed a calculation off thats why i didn't find it as 22gb originally! the thing is i know a lot of people who say great i can download 50mb in 1 second type thing but as andrew points out 50mbps is actually around 6mb. theres a big difference and your average joe tends to think that mbps=megabytes.
Posted by Somerset over 8 years ago
50mbps - do you mean 50Mbs?

M - Mega, B - Byte, b - bit, m - milli.

And there will be overheads which reduce the expected throughtput. Plus the ability of the end to end network and servers.
Posted by Spectre_01 over 8 years ago
What are mtps then?

...answer me that big guy!
Posted by kendal01 over 8 years ago
somerset seems to have some sort of superiority complex here.
Posted by Somerset over 8 years ago ???

Anyone works or teaches in the world of technology knows how important it is to write with 100% accuracy.
Posted by comnut over 8 years ago
:D but they should check their sources!!! result of that URL is:

Acronym Definition
MTPS Metropolitan Toronto Police Service
MTPS Minimum Tunable Port with Symmetric Assignments

and google is not much better..
Posted by comnut over 8 years ago
And while we are talking about transmitting data, you are forgetting the 'check' bits!!

Its not as simple as saying "I sent X bits at Y bps, so it will take X/Y secs to get there"..

There are a lot of other things to make sure it gets there, and if it doesnt, make sure it is re-sent! tells you how...
Posted by kendal01 over 8 years ago
somerset/comnut,while i'm sure you are both very intelligent you should stop putting people down at every attempt. learn about the meaning of context maybe.
Posted by Somerset over 8 years ago
Just trying to help. Context is that speed is written as eg. 8M and a lump of data is 20GB.
Posted by Somerset over 8 years ago
8Mbps - 8 Mega bits per second to be precise.
Posted by comnut over 8 years ago
kendal01: did you not see the smiley, indicationg good humor?? :D
Posted by comnut over 8 years ago
Somerset: can you clarify a typo? eg MBPS... :)
Posted by comnut over 8 years ago
Spectre_01: or is it you....

Posted by Somerset over 8 years ago
MBPS - no such thing.
Posted by comnut over 8 years ago
NO, that will be Mega Bits/Bytes Per Second... :)
Posted by comnut over 8 years ago
do note that many people do not pay much attention to detail, make allowances for that..:)
Posted by Somerset over 8 years ago
Bits/Bytes - which? You could only be x8 out. Hence why it's important!
Posted by cyberdoyle over 8 years ago
Going back to the original article, I think it is a great idea to have a boost button, specially when the kids come visiting. At times it would be a great boon to have a superfast connection, but would hate to have to pay that much all day every day. To get what you need when you want it, just like the other utilities. If i leave my taps running i expect a bigger water bill, same with gas and electric. Why should broadband be any different?
Posted by ruskin0 over 8 years ago
aghh sure throw a nibble in for good measure
( thats the equivalent of 4xbits before anyone asks lol).
Posted by comnut over 8 years ago
:D ROFL :)

cyberdoyle: yes very true - only trouble is, I think the ISPs are a bit stuck, having handed out too many long contracts, and now they have to stick to them!! It may be too expensive in terms of money AND bandwidth, to offer a change...
Posted by NetGuy over 8 years ago
@chrysalis - "yet uk isps struggle with a average usage of a 10th of that"

Really - they struggle with users downloading under 3 GB a month? Or do you mean that they use 3 / 5 / 10 / 20 GB as routine limits, and price accordingly?

I do not think ISPs struggle, I suspect there are a minority using 40/100/200 GB a month (or more) and the vast majority simply choose suitable accounts and have far lower needs than 30 GB, though if 'on demand' services for TV and film goes up, those limits and customer choices will change.
Posted by NetGuy over 8 years ago
I routinely use 5 GB via Three USB stick (7.50/month), and before with ADSL on 1 landline had previously used upwards of 25 GB (and before the 'dsl max' options, used 2 ISPs on different landlines).

I do not expect anyone to fit 'average' usage as we all have different households, and interests.

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