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Orange says no to Phorm for now
Thursday 30 October 2008 13:41:18 by Andrew Ferguson

BT has been the big name most often associated with Phorm, and BT is currently trialing the advertising system under the guise of BT Webwise with a free phishing protection tool as the payback to the customer. Orange who have around one million broadband customers has gone on the record while talking to the Financial Times to say they are not going to use Phorm at this time.

"Privacy is in our DNA, so we need to be honest and clear about what we are doing. We have decided not to be in Phorm because of that ... The way it was proposed, the privacy issue was too strong."

Paul-François Fournier talking to the FT

Reading further through the article it becomes clearer that Orange are not saying they will never use Phorm, but that at this time they will not. The issue currently centres around the clarity of how private customer's information will be, but they may use Phorm or similar systems in the future after more customer consultation.

One mis-understanding that keeps resurfacing with Phorm, is that some people believe it imposes its own advertising banners on all sites you visit. Phorm based advertising will only appear on sites that are signed up to the Phorm OIX system.

Comments

Posted by carrot63 over 8 years ago
"One mis-understanding that keeps resurfacing with Phorm, is that some people believe it imposes its own advertising banners on all sites you visit."

And phorm keep punting another misunderstanding; that you have a 'choice' on whether your privacy is invaded if you opt out via their cookie.
Posted by chrysalis over 8 years ago
Andrew, I hope they paying you commission for your comments :)
If phorm is only supposed to be touching sites signed upto the OIX system then they have some serious technical problems as in the last known trial it was modifying various sites they didnt have permission to touch.
Posted by CARPETBURN over 8 years ago
quote"And phorm keep punting another misunderstanding; that you have a 'choice' on whether your privacy is invaded if you opt out via their cookie."

And users with their knickers in a knot continue to whinge yet stay with an ISP that uses phorm... One big round circle of stupid if you ask me.
Posted by carrot63 over 8 years ago
I'm not with an ISP considering phorm, but in the same way you are free to pass opinion on whatever you want, I don't require personal involvement to pass mine. And no none asked you.

Perhaps you should stay clear of the playground insults CARP ET BURN, since they only confirm you as your own self contained circle of stupidity.
Posted by CARPETBURN over 8 years ago
^^^ whoa slow down there, my comment was not DIRECTLY aimed at you carrol but in general to users that keep bleeping on about phorm being evil yet they stay with whatever ISP it is that are using phorm.
I can only appologise, if you thought i meant you inparticular. I replied to your post and quoted it for illustrative purposes to those that are indeed with a phorm ISP but keep complaining about it. Phorm is in some manner an invasion of privacy, the point is though most that complain here constantly are the ones with an ISP using phorm and do nothing to help thereself... Like leave the ISP
Posted by bluecar1 over 8 years ago
ok lets get a few things clear,

i am anti phorm but with bt

i would love to leave but can't at this point as i am locked in a contract with several months to run,

i have basically three choices,

1 - leave and buy out the remaining term of my contract

2 - sit tight until the end if phorm not adopted

3: if phorm is adopted widescale then revoke / break my contract under the "material change" clause

these are the same choices faced by anyone locked in a contract with an isp looking at phorm or similar technologies.

Posted by partymarty over 8 years ago
"they only confirm you as your own self contained circle of stupidity"

You hit the nail on the head there carrot.
Posted by CARPETBURN over 8 years ago
^^^ Option one seems to be the sensible choice if you are truely worried about your privacy that much.
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