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Industry reaction to BT fibre news
Tuesday 15 July 2008 16:38:48 by Andrew Ferguson

The reaction across wide swathes of the UK press is not unexpected given the large amount of interest people have in getting faster broadband connections these days. The reaction of the various broadband providers and competitors to BT will be interesting and may influence the view Ofcom takes on things.

Virgin Media has understandably emphasised its previously announced move to DOCSIS 3.0 for its higher speed products, that should see 50Mbps available as an option to some 50% of UK households for around £40 to £50 sometime in 2009. Techradar.co.uk posted some comments from the Virgin Media MD of Marketing.

"We've long believed that super-fast broadband is what people want and we're not surprised some of our competitors are now trying to play catch up
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We've already invested £13 billion in a fibre-optic network and the launch of our 50Mb product later this year will mean 12 million UK consumers won't have to wait to get access to next generation broadband.

Our 50Mb trialists have already experienced the power of super-fast broadband and we're excited that we will soon be able to offer this to millions of UK homes."

James Kydd, MD of Marketing and Brand at Virgin Media

We don't have figures for the amount of money BT has already invested in its nationwide fibre network, but suffice to say that this fibre network links almost 5500 telephone exchanges already, and is morphing under the 21st Century Network programme to reduce running costs and make it easier to expand services in the future. Certainly Virgin Media in the guise of NTL and Telewest has spent a lot of money getting its cable network into its current state, but the question is what money is it going to invest to ensure things like the 50Mbps upgrades happen in a reasonable time frame, and upgrade analogue links so that all customers with cable TV have access to cable broadband.

Be Broadband has also reacted to today's news and if the wholesale model is right they see a chance for increasing the coverage of broadband speeds above 20Mbps.

"For an ISP like Be it will all depend on the regulatory framework that goes around the investment. If BT follows the same model as we have in place now it will allow Be to offer more than 20meg broadband to far more than the existing 6% of the population. This is really exciting for people who really depend on and don’t know life without broadband, like Be members. But if BT is allowed to take advantage of its monopolistic position and prevent ISPs like Be from delivering an exceptional service to customers, it will be a missed opportunity."

Oli White, Head of Marketing at Be Broadband

The 6% figure refers to the number of households Be estimates can currently connect at 20Mbps or faster under ADSL2+. As the dust settles more will emerge on the FTTC and FTTP products, one certainty is that there is a lot of discussion needed between the various parts of BT and other broadband providers to produce a product that is attractive at both the wholesale and retail level. A worry for some is that BT may address the needs of the mass market, ignoring the legions of pro-sumers who are keen for significantly higher upload speeds for devices like webcams, Slingboxes and better VPN access into the office, although BT has indicated faster upstream speeds are on the cards.

Comments

Posted by herdwick over 8 years ago
Worth reminding ourselves that in "Market 3" there will be no price controls and no obligation to offer a wholesale service as OFCOM has declared that nobody has significant market power in those areas.
Posted by CARPETBURN over 8 years ago
^^^ Pfffft ofcoms word and reality two seperate things entirely. I welcome the BT news, but im not counting how wonderful the chickens are until they all hatch.
Posted by chrysalis over 8 years ago
interesting times ahead yes, virgin media as far as I know have no plans to upgrade some of their analogue areas and I believe they will actually withdraw analogue cable services at some point and replace them with dsl based services using the ex bulldog llu infrastructure.
Posted by Pigmaster over 8 years ago
£13bn. I believe that to be rubbish. With an investment of £13bn Virgin could of cabled 99% of the UK, but they have not and still concentrate around dense major urban areas
Posted by KarlAustin over 8 years ago
Probably £13bn if you total up all the investment in the cable networks from the start. Not £13bn in the most recent set of upgrades etc.
Posted by chrysalis over 8 years ago
13 billion sounds low when you factor in the backhaul etc. But of course most of that 13 billion was years ago at deflated prices.
Posted by Airidh over 8 years ago
Sitting here in the Western Isles, I read with interest about all this fast broadband. I can average 512Kb on a good day, and some of my friends can't get broadband at all. I would love to get 8Mb. Or even 2. I should perhaps mention that my ISP is Tiscali :-(
Posted by comnut over 8 years ago
Airidh: and you have not left them yet????
this link should help you find another one..
http://www.samknows.com/broadband/mapping/mapping.php
just type in your town or postcode... :)
Posted by Airidh over 8 years ago
Thanks, comnut, for the link. I'll check it out. Yes, I have been looking, but there's always that old adage about better the devil you know .... Some of my friends on the island have worse stories. My experience of Tiscali in the past is that things settle down eventually, but I think I'll move this time.
Posted by Airidh over 8 years ago
Comnut, thanks again, I checked it out. Samknows says "ADSL available at ~0.3Mbps" with a short list of providers, about half of whom have given my friends grief. Maybe I have to stay with Tiscali. But that was interesting. Tiscali says it is BT's fault (they would, wouldn't they?) but from Samknows, it looks as if they may be right.
Posted by asrobs over 8 years ago
I do not think that BT will ignore the areas of Virgin because they are paranoid and will just do like Virgin and go to the dense areas first -all of the rest of us will have to wait till 2010 at the earliest.
Posted by john_beck_uk over 8 years ago
I think we need to realise that these are commercial organisations and any upgrades have to make commercial sense or they are non-starters.
Posted by comnut over 8 years ago
Airidh: that is trouble with being 'out in the wilderness'!! mainland 'mountain country' is bad enough, but add stormy seas.... :(
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