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100 million views since 4oD started
Friday 29 February 2008 13:49:26 by Andrew Ferguson

With all the publicity about the popularity of the BBC iPlayer service and one side saying the bandwidth it uses has a negliable effect and the other sounding cautionary notes it is easy to forget that Channel 4 has its own streaming and download service 4oD.

4oD launched way back in January 2006 and has had some 100 million views and downloads since then according to DigitalSpy.co.uk. In the first few weeks of 2008 up until February 25th, some six million streams or downloads took place which is something like a 110% growth in usage. 4oD is also available via Virgin Media cable TV, Tiscali TV and BT Vision where in fact it has some 2.3 million users versus the 1 million PC based users.

It is entirely possible that the increase in usage has arisen due to the amount of promotion the BBC iPlayer has received on BBC channels, leading to people looking for a similar service on the other mainstream channels.

Comments

Posted by hollows2 over 9 years ago
No support for MAC or Linux users. At least you can see the BBC content using Flash.
Posted by clifford over 9 years ago
Agreed.
Posted by CARPETBURN over 9 years ago
Does not shock me one little bit, ive already commented more than once on here services like this are growing in popularity and have also mentioned 4OD has A LOT more free content than it did a year ago.
The MAC and Linux issues are nothing to do with media format or op system but due to DRM signatures that come with the files... easily removed (though maybe on dodgy legal ground) with a little research.
Posted by danman7_200 over 9 years ago
Channel 4 is the best channel IMO and 4od is simply fantastic.
Posted by stilloptimistik over 9 years ago

I use both. BBCi uses p2p and is much faster to download than 4oD. Ironically one I paid rent for on 4oD was slowest of all - 3 days for 600Mb!
Posted by AndrueC over 9 years ago
I began to realise that catch-up had the potential to be big was when my parents called me out of the blue with a related technical problem. The fact that they had found out about these players and even used them several times without me knowing was a surprise.

I'm still not convinced about BB as an alternative to real-time TV broadcasting but catch-up has real potential. One can only imagine at the take-up a true VoD system would enjoy.

As for providing the infrastructure to support that - had. Good luck with that :-/
Posted by CARPETBURN over 9 years ago
quote"I use both. BBCi uses p2p and is much faster to download than 4oD. Ironically one I paid rent for on 4oD was slowest of all - 3 days for 600Mb!"

Err they both use virtually identical systems that involve kontiki
Posted by stilloptimistik over 9 years ago
"they both use virtually identical systems that involve kontiki"

So why is BBCi much faster and shows you at all times how many seeders are active? It makes no sense anyway for 4oD to use this for archive material for which you are paying as there is no guarantee of active seeders.
Posted by CARPETBURN over 9 years ago
quote""they both use virtually identical systems that involve kontiki"

So why is BBCi much faster and shows you at all times how many seeders are active? It makes no sense anyway for 4oD to use this for archive material for which you are paying as there is no guarantee of active seeders."

Couldnt answer that as i wasnt involved in setup or deployment of the services. The BBC and 4OD services are however all based (including skys broadband download stuff i believe) on kontiki, a quick couple of google searches confirms that. (CONT)
Posted by CARPETBURN over 9 years ago
Seeders and peers doesnt come into the equation as much the system is different to bit torrent, there will always be a source for the file (IE where-ever the BBC/channel 4 originally host it). The service is NOT totally dependant on others sharing the files.
Posted by stilloptimistik over 9 years ago
"The service is NOT totally dependant on others sharing the files."

Thanks for the explanation. No problem with BBCi as they concentrate on recent shows. Not as good but bearable with 4oD for recent stuff but where they are renting archive stuff, the download is diabolical, not just slow speeds but frequent switches to "Waiting".

Posted by CARPETBURN over 9 years ago
quote" the download is diabolical, not just slow speeds but frequent switches to "Waiting"."

Personally i dont think much of either service in terms of speed you can grab a program. Content itself isnt that bad though. I have an ADSL2+ service and even on Iplayer stuff takes a few minutes before it starts to download, ive actually waited 15 mins before a programme would start to download in the past. In that time i could have grabbed in data size terms 3 times the size the programme actually is. I only use it to grab the odd programme (normally one offs) that i may have missed.
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