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Pick and mix soon with Sky Picnic
Monday 25 February 2008 11:05:12 by Andrew Ferguson

The picnic product range from Sky has been on the cards for a while, but it seems it is entering the final stages of testing with employees now able to use the system at home.

SkyUser has a bit more information on the service. The idea behind Picnic is that rather than forcing users to take a bundle people can pick and choose which elements of the bundle they want, be that telephone service, broadband or TV. The TV service is delivered over digital terrestrial television and picnic will use its own dedicated set-top box. The aim appears to be that in time that MPEG-4 encoding will be used either to support a HD channel or fit more channels into the available capacity.

The TV component of the service is subject to being looked at by Ofcom. The broadband component looks fairly well advanced and is designed to be a self-install product with a new version of the Netgear DG834GT ADSL modem/router. The version 4 router will come with a CD to guide people through the set-up of the service.

Comments

Posted by Sandgrounder over 9 years ago
Ofcom should keep Sky away from terrestrial TV, leaving more bandwidth available for the BBC and ITV etc to start the HD broadcasting for which we have all been paying our licence fees.
Posted by _TRIaXOR_ over 9 years ago
IMHO the Licence fee should be scrapped..
Posted by _sjr_ over 9 years ago
Can't agree about scrapping the licence fee; programme quality would sink to new lows and not just on the BBC; there's only a finite amount of money spent on TV advertising and if the BBC had to get a chunk of that everybody else would get less so it would lower standards across the board. Compared to what Sky charge for what you get, the licence fee is a bargain!
Posted by CARPETBURN over 9 years ago
Sounds good to me mpeg4 = more channels in a smaller space, cant say im a big fan of skys charging methods but this new system could be very good, i shall certainly take a look and check out prices.
Posted by jrawle over 9 years ago
Sky should never have been allowed to withdraw its free channels from Freeview only for them to be replaced with paid-for terrestrial channels. Why can't they stick to their satellite platform? One one hand, they are told to sell their ITV stake, while on the other they are allowed to take over yet another broadcast platform. Make them give the Freeview channels to someone else if they aren't going to provide free content.

Also, what's wrong with the licence fee? What's silly is all the people who pay to watch adverts on Sky.
Posted by herdwick over 9 years ago
Never mind the idiot's lantern - what's the standalone broadband going to be like ?
Posted by shaunhw over 9 years ago
I hope it dies a death. Sky should not have been allowed to hijack the terrestrial platform. Especially in a format that requires YET ANOTHER set top box, and wouldn't be supported, by the newest IDTV


Posted by Guzzo over 9 years ago
I must be a lucky one as my Skybox still gets Freeview channels and I cancelled the SKY package I signed up for after the first year and that was 6 years ago?
Posted by CARPETBURN over 9 years ago
quote"Sky should never have been allowed to withdraw its free channels from Freeview.."
Er what channels????? Sky Three is still on terrestrial freeview, what do you want, them to give away all the movies and sports for nothing lol how do you thing they get the money to deliver content like that?
Posted by CARPETBURN over 9 years ago
quote" hope it dies a death. Sky should not have been allowed to hijack the terrestrial platform. Especially in a format that requires YET ANOTHER set top box, and wouldn't be supported, by the newest IDTV"

Ermmm its a totally different system which will have no affect on the current terrestrial mpeg2 based freeview system the UK has. They havent hijacked anything LOL they still have to pay for the broadcasting space just like anyone else... Its just sky are smarter than the beeb and found a way to shove more content (mpeg4) in a smaller space.
Posted by ian9outof10 over 9 years ago
If OFCOM allow Sky to butcher the DVB-T platform with yet another stupid pay-TV alternative to the abysmal TopUpTV then I really will despair of the regulation in this country.

Give us a basic MPEG-4 HD service for BBC, ITV, C4 and C5 and the rest can be SD.

But please, keep Sky, Murdoch and it's vile cohorts away from the public spectrum, we deserve better than a News Corp controlled broadcast spectrum.
Posted by CARPETBURN over 9 years ago
quote"If OFCOM allow Sky to butcher the DVB-T platform...."
I fail to see what ofcom have to do with this lol and they aint butchering anything its a totally different compression format to the stream its nothing like current freeview DVB-T.
quote"Give us a basic MPEG-4 HD service for BBC, ITV, C4 and C5 and the rest can be SD."
LMAO yea we all want repeats and C5 cack in HD dont we lol lets all write to the government about that.
quote"we deserve better than a News Corp controlled broadcast spectrum."
Says the person who wants a BBC HD service?? :rolleyes:
Posted by rasczak over 9 years ago
@ CarpetBurn. You don't know what Ofcom have to do with a broadcaster who is using spectrum licenced from Ofcom. Maybe you should read up on what the Sky plans actually are before making ill informed comments.
Posted by CARPETBURN over 9 years ago
quote"CarpetBurn. You don't know what Ofcom have to do with a broadcaster..."
That is not what i meant, the system they will be employing ofcom as far as i can see wont be able to do anything about it even if they wish. It is different to current Free to air digital TV it not an attempt to monopolise that market or nibble anyone else. (CONT)
Posted by CARPETBURN over 9 years ago
Ofcom may want to look at the platform but it is basically unique and not something they can really say NO to (OK they could but not for reasons some here are screaming), thus its nothing really to do with ofcom, its just a formality they have to look at it first. How people can say this impacts freeview i dunno, the system is entirely different.
Posted by CARPETBURN over 9 years ago
If Freeview supported Mpeg4 or High Def channels then yes fair enough you can argue sky are trying to affect freeview, but the fact is freeview is neither of those things.
Posted by rasczak over 9 years ago
So you haven't read up on Sky's plans then. Not surprising that you don't know what you are talking about then, and not for the first time either.
Posted by rasczak over 9 years ago
Sky are taking their 3 free to air channels off the Freeview platform, and wanting to transmit 4 subscription channels, on the same radio frequencies, using a STB incompatible with any current or proposed ones. This impacts on spectrum available for freeview and the boxes people have to buy.
Posted by Guzzo over 9 years ago
I took a picnic from SKY years ago LOL. How can anyone with any sense of decency enrich Murdoch and his gang?
I saw HD yesterday on one of those shaky LCD screens, reminded me of a cartoon. Full of two dimensional looking people, overbright and overpriced. Sorry LCD ain't never as quick as a CRT. Still there are so many out there who will sign on the easy credit dotted line and that's what the whole scene is about.
Posted by CARPETBURN over 9 years ago
quote"Sky are taking their 3 free to air channels off the Freeview platform, and wanting to transmit 4 subscription channels"
Really which 3 channels do they air for free on freeview??? And frankly its up to them what they put on it, nobody moaned when Granada and men and motors dissapeared to this extent. What about ITV+1 replaced with ITV2+1??? Didnt hear anyone whinging about that either, doesnt affect the current freeview system at all, you want to moan about freeview, take it up with the BBC and government, thats who gets you licence fee. CONT
Posted by CARPETBURN over 9 years ago
Honestly moaning a company is removing a channel or channels you dont pay a penny for.... Priceless. Do you kick up a stink in supermarkets when they stop their buy one get one free offers also?? Sky can do as they please with their channels..... Did you moan at the beeb during the world cup and how only a single location in the country got a HD stream of it? NO didnt think so.
Posted by CARPETBURN over 9 years ago
Long live companys that develop technology i say, im happy to pay extra for HD services if i want them, the licence fee i pay doesnt seem to have much done with it. At least sky buy new and popular programmes instead of weeknight repeat after repeat like the beeb.
Posted by herdwick over 9 years ago
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

council house TV, who gives a F***
Posted by mr_chris over 9 years ago
@herdwick - calling it "council house TV" is very narrow-minded!

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