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Tiscali to launch new Child Protection tool in March 2008
Tuesday 05 February 2008 17:47:27 by Andrew Ferguson

Child protection when using the Internet is always a difficult area, with parents struggling between giving children freedom and controlling every aspect of their online presence. In an effort to help parents Tiscali in a partnership with Crisp software are to offer a software package that analyses online conversations to identify inappropriate relationships and alert parents to a potential grooming situation.

The software will be available from March 2008 and people are invited to register for more details at the time of the Tiscali launch. The service will carry a monthly subscription of £3.50.

Child safety online is important and the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre can provide information for parents who want to learn more about the risks. At the simplest level, talking with your children and finding out what software they are using and asking them to show you how it works can be better sometimes than installing monitoring software which, particularly with teenagers, they will find a way around, e.g. not using the computer for messaging, but a mobile phone or games console.

Crisp, the company who produce the software, offers the software direct to consumers via www.protectingeachother.com for £3.99 a month, or a annual payment of £36. The software currently works with Yahoo! Messenger, MSN, myspace, icq and AIM running on Windows Vista and XP.

Comments

Posted by CARPETBURN over 9 years ago
quote"Tiscali in a partnership with Crisp software are to offer a software package that analyses online conversations to identify inappropriate relationships and alert parents to a potential grooming situation."
given Tiscalis track record on everything net... Id trust them and their choosen software to protect my child as much as i would a whole prison full of kiddie fiddlers.
Posted by AndrueC over 9 years ago
Ah but give them their dues. They are doing a good job of protecting people by making it almost impossible to download anything or play video games.

The safest network is apparently one that doesn't work and Tiscali is making great strides in that direction.
Posted by CARPETBURN over 9 years ago
LOL AndrueC17 maybe it was a child filter all along and all us here being old fools just cant figure out how to turn it off. We need advice from a 9 year old to disable it ;)
Posted by keith_thfc over 9 years ago
"Child safety online is important and the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre can provide information for parents who want to learn more about the risks"

Also important is the Tiscali Exploitation and Online Protection Centre - for parents who want to know more about the risks of being abused by a cowboy ISP.
Posted by shazzym over 9 years ago
Gotta agree with Keith_thfc. Who's going to save our children from Tiscali?
Posted by AndrueC over 9 years ago
@keith_thfc:rofl!

Mind you if someone is going to set up such an organisation they ought to extend it to cover the whole shower. About the only ISPs that can claim to be whiter than white are the resellers (IMO) and they are still helping to perpetuate low prices.
Posted by theo59 over 9 years ago
I am a Tiscali customer and like you am annoyed by some aspects of their operation - but pleased with others. Regardless of that fact, I think you're missing the point here . . . . the service if provided by Crisp. The fact that Tiscali are doing something aboout the issue of child protection online has to be a good thing, regardless of your views about them as a company. Shame on you.
Posted by Guzzo over 9 years ago
Maybe children could go out with their parents to playcentres and the "swings" to meet and chat?
An unusual concept of course. Much better to sit on chairs typing garbage and gettin fat.

What would happen if Tiscali operated in partnership to its paying subcribers to provide a good service instead?



Posted by migrater over 9 years ago
Posted by keith_thfc about 5 hours ago
"Child safety online is important and the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre can provide information for parents who want to learn more about the risks"

Also important is the Tiscali Exploitation and Online Protection Centre - for parents who want to know more about the risks of being abused by a cowboy ISP.

lmao
Posted by keith_thfc over 9 years ago
@Theo59

Tiscali are charging extra for the service. If they really cared about child protection it would be free.

I'm waiting for the premium service to be announced. In addition to notifying you of the potential groomer, it will offer them unlimited superfast broadband for £6.49 and then secretly hijack their internet line, moving it over to Tiscali LLU and thus ensuring your child never hears from them at peak times again.

Posted by dopamine2 over 9 years ago
theo59, surely you can't genuinely believe that Tiscali really give a stuff about child protection. This is just another means for them to make money by playing on the fears of the naive.
Posted by theo59 over 9 years ago
My comment was about how posts dwell on topics other than those mentioned in Andrew's piece.

Kids should not be allowed to use the internet freely – they should be out and about rather than sedentary. But, the fact is many parents use the internet as a substitute nanny, as an earlier generation used TV for the same purpose. That any ISP is providing a tool to help protect children online is a good thing. *Uppermost* is the integrity and security of childrens' online experiences – that’s my point. To miss that by using every opportunity to divert from it is a shame.
Posted by CARPETBURN over 9 years ago
quote "That any ISP is providing a tool to help protect children online is a good thing."

They aint providing a damn thing they have entered in a contract with crisp, and gonna milk the customer for yet more cash for yet another service a competant net user of 11 years old will bypass in seconds. The next day at school he will be showing his mates a picture he downloaded of the lady from the internet with the big boobies on his psp, ipod or whatever. All the while his parents think little billy is safe from things like that thanks to the inept Tiscali.
Posted by andrew (Favicon staff member) over 9 years ago
Hence why it is suggested that computers be in a part of the house where parents and others can keep an eye on things.

Instead of saying things like 'inept Tiscali' have you actually read what the tool actually does? Along with the variety of other tools out there.

Parents have a choice this app is not being forced on them.
Posted by CARPETBURN over 9 years ago
quote "Instead of saying things like 'inept Tiscali' have you actually read what the tool actually does?"
Indeed i have "analyses online conversations to identify inappropriate relationships and alert parents to a potential grooming situation."
and i still stand by what i said a tech savy 11 year old will disable it in seconds (have you seen it??). The advice the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre state in this story is far more sensible than this application.
Posted by CARPETBURN over 9 years ago
Even though its only meant to report grooming messages thats not gonna happen... No software is that perfect, hows it gonna tell the difference between a boyfriend/girlfriend convo and a grooming conversation??? Kids wont want mum knowing what they and the girlfriend or whoever are talking about and rather than believe this software only reports things to protect them they will just bypass it. Communicating with your child about only talking to who you know in IM etc etc and supervision are the better alternatives.
Posted by chrysalis over 9 years ago
not needed as when the kids are off school tiscali users cant browse any site :)
Posted by CARPETBURN over 9 years ago
quote "not needed as when the kids are off school tiscali users cant browse any site :)"

Now that was just plain mean ;)
Posted by Guzzo over 9 years ago
I wonder how parent became parents before ISP's and the Internet?
Oh new technology is so uplifting for society. Progress? I think not
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